Open Forum, Jan. 23-29



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No. 1) Week could bring medley of winter weather

No. 2) Snow threat lingers for Tuesday

No. 3) Snow arrives in downtown Vancouver

No. 4) Two sent to hospital after t-bone crash on Padden Parkway

No. 5) Weather blog: Mega Snowstorm Headed For Pac NW?

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Another GOP lawmaker arrested for breaking the law. Again. It's all about family values...

Watson, who was arrested last April in Connecticut for driving while intoxicated and marijuana possession, has said that he smoked marijuana for pain relief. He does not have a medical marijuana card, which would allow him to possess and use small amounts of the drug.

nailingit — January 23, 2012 at 6:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Michele Bachman's fantasy world, and the ignorance of those who follow...

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- **Rep. Michele Bachmann predicted Sunday that the November elections will end abortion** as she made her first public appearance in Minnesota since dropping out of the Republican presidential race.

**Bachmann said the Supreme Court decision should be repealed within the next year.**

"Here on our watch we will stand, we will stand for life, we will never forget, we will never give up, and next year we will gather in a day of celebration when we have finally ended abortion in this all important election," she said. "Join me this year. Choose life."

nailingit — January 23, 2012 at 6:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Interesting editorial from The Columbian today about the CRC/I5 Bridge project.

WA Sec'y State Hammond disagrees with every one of T. Crouch's findings. Uh...Who had project oversight? And which state's employees have (per Crouch) left their state jobs to work for Evans? If Crouch's observations/assessments are even partially accurate, then this "disagreement" on Hammond's part shouldn't be accepted.

The Columbian continues to insist light rail is a critical part of the project. I'd really like to know their reasoning. All ridership estimates show it'll do little to reduce traffic congestion. And most of the riders will simply be ones who move from the C-Tran express runs. Oregon has insisted from the beginning that no rail, then no CRC. Why?

Who will build and profit from the parking garages in Vancouver that are tied to the light rail project? Are these to be a City or private enterprise?

Editor Lou, you've made a good start at looking into the CRC and recognizing the validity of the concerns people who are opposed to the project have raised over the past few years. Please don't stop now.

roger — January 23, 2012 at 6:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal

It must have been a nightmare I was having last night. First I thought I heard that Chip Kelly was going to Tampa Bay and then this morning I checked the news and they say he turned it down and is staying in Oregon.

Man, what a weird dream. What was I consuming to make that happen?

hawkeye — January 23, 2012 at 8:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Chip, in my view, would get eaten up in the NFL, like most college coaches who try to make the jump.

Lou Brancaccio (Columbian Staff) — January 23, 2012 at 11:25 a.m. ( | suggest removal

You may be right, Lou. It's a whole different way of life. Pro players don't respond to coaches the way college players do. I can't see Chip getting a pro player do a hurry up offense like the college guys do.

hawkeye — January 23, 2012 at 11:34 a.m. ( | suggest removal

The 'hits' just keep on coming...

**Rubio aide put on leave after arrest**

She and her husband had begun arguing while driving home. Upon getting out of the vehicle, he pushed her onto a carpet that was lying on the garage floor. She pretended to pass out, she told investigators, and he began to roll her up in the carpet “as if I was dead or something.”
He then proceeded to kick and punch at the carpet with her inside, she said.

But she refused medical treatment, declined to press charges and became “uncooperative,” deputies said. Deputies said they found probable cause to arrest Michael Brennan for domestic violence battery based on statements from the couple and injuries to Kelly Brennan’s elbow.
A court trial is set for Feb. 14.

Read more:

nailingit — January 23, 2012 at 1:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Here ya go.. With all your insight and abilities, these folks could use you...

I see Kelly very much Like harbough for the 49's, someone who holds his players accountable. If kelly was the coach of Cincy or Xvaier none of those kids would be playing.... He is a X's and O's type of coach and a teacher as well. I first thought after hearing this come about the same as you but really most these guys like straight shooters and thats what Kelly is. When he does go I believe he will do very well.. He is single and that helps in such he can devote the time that the job demands...
LOU..Chip is not like most College coaches. Most college coaches look at Chip as a mentor too, he willing to give of his time as many coaches and Pro coaches come out to his spring practices to see what they do.. That to me means he is more than your average coach LOU! That would be like comparing you with Raju Narisetti...Not your average editor IMHO

vanwadreamer — January 23, 2012 at 2:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal

**Doug Lamborn, GOP Congressman From Colorado, Will Boycott Obama's State Of The Union Address**

Lamborn, who was named the "most conservative" member of Congress by National Journal in 2010, became embroiled in controversy last year when **he referred to Obama as a "tar baby."** He later apologized in a personal letter to the president.

nailingit — January 23, 2012 at 2:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Speaking to reporters this morning before tonight's NBC debate in Tampa, Romney warned of an "October surprise a day" if Gingrich wins the Republican nomination, citing ethics investigations dating back to Gingrich's days as speaker of the House. Romney also hammered Gingrich for his consulting work after he left office, calling on the former lawmaker to release records detailing his work for Freddie Mac and on behalf of clients lobbying for health care and Medicare reform.

***Looks like Mitt is getting worried, as well he should, as well all of us should if Newt wins.***

hawkeye — January 23, 2012 at 4:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal

This "lady" reminds me of a few that post here. Angry, uninformed and bigoted. What a circus!

**Santorum ignores charge Obama is a Muslim**

"I never refer to Obama as President Obama because legally he is not," the woman in the audience began. "He constantly says that our constitution is passé, and he ignores it as you know and does what he darn well pleases. He is an avowed Muslim and my question is, why isn't something being done to get him out of government? He has no legal right to be calling himself president."

nailingit — January 23, 2012 at 4:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Catch the debate now @

nailingit — January 23, 2012 at 6:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Test... test. Is this thing on?

Drift — January 24, 2012 at 2:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Romney Wrong on ‘Obamacare’ and Deficit

Romney continued his attacks on the federal health care law, saying that the country has $15 trillion in debt and President Obama “adds another trillion on top for Obamacare and for his stimulus plan that didn’t create private-sector jobs.”

But the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will reduce yearly deficits — by $119 billion over the 2012-2019 period — not add to them. Earlier this month at a debate in New Hampshire, Romney phrased this claim differently, saying that repealing the health care law would save “$95 billion a year.” That figure is the amount of new spending required by the law, but Romney didn’t factor in spending cuts and revenue provisions that, according to CBO, would more than cover the cost of the legislation.

This time, Romney took his claim a step further, wrongly saying that the law would increase the debt, not just spending. In fact, the CBO has said that the deficit would increase if the health care law was repealed, as Romney proposes.

***Yup, it works! Romney doesn't.***

hawkeye — January 24, 2012 at 2:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal

***There is more....***

hawkeye — January 24, 2012 at 2:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal

**'Bring Back Beck': Right-Wing Public Policy Group Launches Campaign To Get Glenn Beck Back On Fox News**

A conservative group has launched a new campaign urging Fox News CEO Roger Ailes to bring Glenn Beck back and criticizing the network for hiring a lesbian contributor.

America's Survival Inc., which has been described as "a public policy group dedicated to exposing the role of hedge fund billionaire George Soros in Obama's radical transformation of America," is spearheading the effort.

In an interview featured on Christian News Wire, ASI President Cliff Kincaid said that "Fox News has been disintegrating" since Beck's departure. He criticized the network for replacing Beck's former program with a new show titled "The Five," which features Bob Beckel, a democratic host. Read more...

nailingit — January 24, 2012 at 2:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal

**Romney Wrong on ‘Obamacare’ and Deficit**

Romney, like Gingrich, doesn't have to be right. They simply need to say the things their base wants to hear.

Gingrich is dangerous. With his demeanor, he can convince R's he is the guy to take on the "elite in NY & DC", and solve all the problems. I doubt many goppers will remember as a rep, Speaker, and now a lobbyist (although he hasn't come up with any details of his gig as a "historical consultant" for Freddie Mac) he IS one of those elite, a real insider. The newt is your man if you want combative politics, but if you want the government to work, well....

Romney is kinda like the wolf in sheep's clothing, but less confrontational than the newt. But, he will cut anything and everything to the detriment of those loyal goppers that support him. Talk about biting off your nose to spite your face, supporting either of these guys is it. Unless you feel taking in the kazoo is good for Wall St, corps, etc, and therefore good for the US, you'll probably be sadly mistaken. Careful what you wish for.

Unfortunately, it seems the political and economic mood will create a lot of support for any opponent of Obama. But either Romney or the newt is a financial disaster for most of us-especially if Congress moves their way.

mrd — January 24, 2012 at 4:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actors in adult movies filmed in Los Angeles will be required to use condoms under an ordinance signed into law by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, and porn industry leaders say the regulation could lead them to abandon the nation's porn capital.

Here's a thought, maybe they should apply the same rule at the Republican't convention.

hawkeye — January 24, 2012 at 7:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Grandpa fought in Patton's Army and Grandma worked in a bomber assembly plant. Wonder if that's good enough for the "birther" crowd?

roger — January 24, 2012 at 7:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal

hawkeye — January 24, 2012 at 7:11 p.m.
"...and porn industry leaders say the regulation could lead them to abandon the nation's porn capital."

More jobs moving overseas? Pres says companies that do this will have to pay higher taxes and will lose their subsidies. (But I'm sure this is one industry our tax dollars aren't subsidizing. Or are they?)

roger — January 24, 2012 at 7:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Jaime was on TV!!! She made it up to the aisle to greet The Pres on the way in. (I think CBS thought she was Bachmann; the camera zoomed in for a closeup, and then suddenly panned away.)

roger — January 24, 2012 at 7:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal

crazytrain — January 24, 2012 at 7:30 p.m

Uh-Oh looks like I hit too close to home on that one, huh crazy?

hawkeye — January 24, 2012 at 7:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal

BTW, what's with the "eh" ? You Canadian?

hawkeye — January 24, 2012 at 7:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal

He's been gone for a while but I see Kim Kendell is back and is running for congress up on the first floor today.

Rightwing_Extremist — January 24, 2012 at 11:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal

The Pres gave a great speech last night. Unfortunately (or not, depending on what one believes) none of his proposals will make it to his desk to sign. And none of the Republican counter-proposals will make it to the Senate floor. So, I guess that means another year of finger pointing and little more.

I was enjoying the crowd shots. I believe it was when The Pres was discussing eliminating tax breaks for corporations that export jobs - Eric Cantor looked like he ate something extremely foul tasting (like eggplant). But then, as The Pres got wound up and started his second attack on Big Oil and the banking investment system, Cantor regained his usual smirk - at that point I knew The Pres had gone too far. Because we all know who really owns the process.

roger — January 25, 2012 at 6:22 a.m. ( | suggest removal

From yesterday's Columbian article on our local economic groups petitioning the Washington statehouse to find funding for the CRC.

“This project provides badly needed jobs, addresses long-standing earthquake safety issues, significantly reduces traffic congestion in one of the West Coast’s most significant freight corridors, accommodates future regional growth by adding light rail and will be a standing legacy of our generation for decades to come,” according to the letter.

The jobs will be mostly itinerant construction labor. (Remember the farm workers of the 60s?)

Earthquake - once again, the I5 Bridge is much sounder and will probably survive much longer than the I5 corridor down in P'Town.

Traffic congestion won't be improved until the mess from the I405 turnoff is eliminated. And have you ever sat in line for 30 minutes or more trying to get from I5 North to I205 North down in the Wilsonville area? If anything, the I5 bridge is the least of the problem - an occasional boat bridgelift.

Light rail has done nothing positive for P'Town - no one who is on a schedule uses it. When I'm sitting on the I84 going downtown at 8:30 a.m. and see the three different lines all barely half full - that tells me there's a problem. The Yellow line will have the capacity to take less than 1% of the traffic off the road - if we tell P'Towners who live in NW Portland to stop taking it.

A standing legacy of our generation? And just what will that legacy be? Tolls and what else?

roger — January 25, 2012 at 6:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal

from JHB on Obama's plan to raise taxes on the rich-

“Raising taxes won’t solve our nation’s problems,” she said.

Although polls indicate overwhelming support for doing so, the R's can't get behind it. It's as if they are all for the rich. If Jamie can't understand more revenue will decrease the deficit, simple math must escape her. I'm also sure, as she said, waste needs to be cut, well, duh. Unfortunately, her party's present definition of waste is education, SS, etc....

mrd — January 25, 2012 at 7:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal

I was just over on the other side where FB resides. I have noticed one thing as I was reading some of the comments. What is wrong with some of those people?? They can't string a sentence together without misspelled words and using text messaging shortcuts.

If this a sample of what my tax dollars are used for in school then we have lost it. I have to wonder if some of these young kids are even passing the English coarse or if we even have in school anymore.

Children, listen up!! If you want to make a point, or at least sound a little better when you have a statement to make, use the language as it was meant to be used. It is a form of communication. You will be understood a lot better if you use it properly. Remember, you are communicating with a wider variety of people now not just your own circle of friends.

One more thing. If you are unsure how to spell a word use your spell-check. Most computers have this feature and you will save yourself a lot of embarrassment.

Note to Matt: Some of the comments made on the story about the young man that was shot were still out of hand. That was after your reminder. JMO

JohnCasey — January 25, 2012 at 7:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal

A great look at Apple and why it produces overseas. One of those "must read" articles. Eye opening.

**How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work**;&%2359;pagewanted=all

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 7:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal

" I have to wonder if some of these young kids are even passing the English coarse or if we even have in school anymore."

JohnCasey- I'm not one to criticize another's grammar or spelling. But you might want to review your spelling of "coarse", as well as your omission of the word "it" after "have" (among a few other...items), before criticizing others. :)

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 8:06 a.m. ( | suggest removal

I drove over to P-town yesterday. The time was 8:40 in the morning. Used I-5. The only problem was the one that is the same all of the time.

The CRC still refuses to recognize the choke point at the Rose Quarter district. If you don't know, the two problems are the I-405 traffic coming off the bridge going southbound and the lanes narrowing down to two just after that. Further south you have cars jockeying for the I-84 eastbound and cars coming off the surface street going south to take either I-84 exit, Morrison Bridge-Oregon city exit, or I-5 south.

I still believe if we don't get the amount to finance a totally new bridge then we need to shoot for a re-routing of the northbound entrance off of Hayden Island and to re-route SR-14 to come on I-5 south further north. If we eliminate these choke points the it would put the problem solely at the Rose Quarter are.

By the way, it took me 40 minutes to get over to the Broadway exit. I started at the Vancouver Mall down SR-500. I never got over 27 MPH after I got to I-5 southbound. I counted 27 stops on the freeway. 5 of them was right before the I-405 comes in. I was just taking the next exit but those drivers are not courteous and it took two minutes just to get over 2 lane in several hundred yards.

I really don't know what the old way of signing on had to do with spam. But i will say this CAPTCHA way really blows. My two posts have taken a combined 27 times before I could get two to work!!! I just found out that it times out if you don't get done typing your post. Now I have to do it again. Dammit!!!

JohnCasey — January 25, 2012 at 8:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal

You are right of course, Nail !! Score CAPTCHA=32 JOHN=3

JohnCasey — January 25, 2012 at 8:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal

RWE, I saw it too. I still don't know if "Kim" is male or female though.

hawkeye — January 25, 2012 at 8:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal

@ 7:58- Sorry, the link I posted starts at page 6 of a 7 page article. It's lengthier than some, but captivating and worth the read.

Obama delivered a strong speech last night, paving the way for the national debate on income disparity. I hope they do allow audience cheers and jeers when the Prez is debating either Romney or Gingrich. It'll be somewhere in the neighborhood of 99 for Obama, to 1 for whoever! And with that said...

Newt is threatening to drop out of future debates because he can't feed off audience support? Major megalomaniac with serious insecurity issues. Who would cheer him on when debating foreign policy with Putin...Son of Kim Jong (sounds like a B movie), Xi Jinping etc.?

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 9:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal

If elected president, Mitt Romney might consider ending a tax break that helped the former Massachusetts governor accumulate his fortune, an aide suggested Tuesday.

The comments came as the Romney campaign made available more than 500 pages of tax-return data for 2010 and 2011 amid signs the issue was hurting him with some voters.

Later in the day, in a signal of how the tax issue is roiling the GOP campaign, the Romney camp tried to step back from the aide's remarks, underscoring that the former Massachusetts governor didn't want to raise anyone's taxes.

***OK, is this "flip" or "flop"?***

***500 pages???? for two years, that's 250 pages per year. I'm thinking the tax code really needs an overhaul.***

hawkeye — January 25, 2012 at 9:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal

This is one time I'm crying right along with Boehner. Gabby Giffords...YOU ROCK!!!

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 9:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Another typical obama state of the union address, or in reality, another campaign speech. Other than being longer than most, it was the same speech we have heard before. obama blamed the Republicans for all that is wrong with this country, scolded everyone who disagrees with him and more or less told us that if he doesn't get his way he will use any powers he has to make it happen.

I found it more interesting to look at the different people in attendance as the camera panned around the room. Behind obama, of course was Biden, who looked half asleep as usual. Even he seems to be bored listening to the same old BS. Next to Biden, of course was Boehner, who, whether you like him or not, is a lot more pleasant to look at than the distorted face of Pelosi. After the first lady's entrance, it is definite that she needs a new advisor on how to dress for these events. One of the best expressions was that of Geithner. Apparently, he did not know what was in obama's speech. He looked as if he was wondering where the money was going to come from for all of the new programs obama wants to start.

McCain has a great expression when obama was telling the Mexicans to vote for him because he will allow their families and friends to remain in this country, illegal or not. Last, but not least, the smiling, bubbly look on Jaime Herrera Beutler's face. She looked like a kid on vacation. I hope it's because she is a little naive, because, on becoming a career politician, she will become one of the most disliked and distrusted people in the country.

cranky — January 25, 2012 at 11:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal

LOL!!! Even Castro gets it right!

**Fidel Castro Calls Republican Race 'Competition Of Idiocy And Ignorance'**

"The selection of a Republican candidate for the presidency of this globalized and expansive empire is – and I mean this seriously – the greatest competition of idiocy and ignorance that has ever been," said the retired Cuban leader, who has dueled with 11 U.S. administrations since his 1959 revolution.

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 11:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal

DORAL, Fla. (AP) - Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Wednesday ridiculed rival Mitt Romney's call for self-deportation of illegal immigrants as an "Obama-level fantasy" that would be inhumane to long-established families living in America. Romney, for his part, accused Gingrich of pandering to a Hispanic audience and said Gingrich himself had supported self-deportation in the past.

Discussing immigration in state where 13 percent of registered voters are Hispanic, the former House speaker criticized Romney's immigration policy during a forum with the Spanish-language television network Univision, saying the idea of self-deportation would never work. Romney snapped back at him later in the day at the same forum.

hawkeye — January 25, 2012 at 2:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hey Matt or Libby.
What's up on the FB side. When I get into the comments I always go to chronological layout providing there are at least six toplevel comments. When I do this I can not see "view # more". If I leave it at social ranking whatever that is, I can see the "view # more", but of course I don't want to see the comments in social ranking. I'm a firm believer that if you are going to have threaded comments they definitely need to be chronological. This happens in Firefox, Opera, and IE (don't use Chrome.) If I go to LA Times or USA Today and read their FB comments no problem seeing the additional comments. Anyone else having this problem? What's the Columbian doing differently from other FB comment pages? While I'm on the subject, is there anyway to get FB to accurately count comments I'd like to see the total number of comments not just the toplevel comments so I don't miss something interesting by thinking nothing new is there because the toplevel number didn't change.

dfsadfh — January 25, 2012 at 2:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal

These numbers are staggering! Other polls are trending progressive! Four more years of Obama and Dem rule beyond. One thing about war weary lean times, more people pay attention to politics. Republican Economic/Social/Foreign policies, and the havoc they wreak are playing at Centre Court as never before, and people are getting it!

**Poll: High Marks for Obama's Speech**

This year, 82 percent of those who watched the speech said they approve of the president's plans for the economy, up from 53 percent who approved before the speech. Eighty percent said they approved of Mr. Obama's plans for the deficit -- in contrast to 45 percent before the speech. Eighty-three percent approved of Mr. Obama's proposals regarding Afghanistan, which received only a 57 percent approval rating beforehand.

Read more:


**Mormon Church's Prior Baptism Of Dead Jews Could Raise Concerns For Florida Voters**

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 6:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal


did you read the comments on the story where the 2nd level had about 100 entries?

the count for the comments was less than 10

DeeLittle — January 25, 2012 at 7:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Dee, that's because they only count initial comments, not replies.

hawkeye — January 25, 2012 at 8:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal

crazy- Thanks for bringing Brewer up. I didn't realize this scandal has been going on. Jan Brewer's son is a criminally insane convicted rapist. Brewer's competence has been suspect at times with memory lapses and erratic behavior, could be something else going on. Another case of republicans not vetting their elected. From headless bodies to Sheriff Joe, what's a little staged wave of the finger to impress the nuts?

Jan Brewer Investigated by Feds Over Criminally Insane Son's Social Security Benefits

"Governor Jan Brewer was nicknamed a "perky-eyed psychopath".while Sheriff Joe Arpaio was dubbed an "insane lunatic cowboy wannabe."

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 10:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — January 25, 2012 at 10:17 p.m.

The Maricopa County Sheriff is an elected position. Joe Arpaio has held that position for years. The Phoenix area has always been an area rife with theft-type crimes; e.g., when I lived there in the late 70's I lost two car batteries before I learned to chain my front hood shut. By the early 90's the gangs were growing and violence was on the increase. Joe ran on taking a hard line against all of this, and his work camps met with overwhelming approval. The deal is, there's a small, vocal liberal enclave in the East Phoenix-Tempe area that detests him. The rest of the county is conservative - no matter whether Anglo or Mexican descent. Joe protects what they worked hard to earn, and they reward him with reelection. (And don't try to confuse the voters with showing crime statistics are actually worse than ever - I've tried with my in-laws, and they aren't buying it. Joe has them believing they're safer.)

So - whoever called Joe an "insane lunatic cowboy wannabe" is dead wrong. Joe Arpaio is a very crafty politician who happens to wear a badge.

roger — January 26, 2012 at 5:22 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Who is this guy David Cone Jr.? I don't follow Battleground government, but his comments about them are pretty nasty. Much worse than the arguing between Lew Waters and his favorite Mayor Leave-it. Or his favorite State Rep Jim Moeller.

HEY, MATT!!!! Is accusing people of using the law to their own advantage, collecting porn, and other unspecified transgressions acceptable? Mind you, I don't mind a little rolling in the mud, but accusations like this need to be substantiated or sent to the round file.

roger — January 26, 2012 at 6:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal

(And don't try to confuse the voters with showing crime statistics are actually worse than ever - I've tried with my in-laws, and they aren't buying it. Joe has them believing they're safer.) I stayed with a friend in Phoenix for a summer in the late seventies. He lived down the street from Camelback HS. I was always on the lookout for Alice, but he never showed!

I'm all for getting more than tough with gang violence, just not for law enforcement shredding individual liberties.

nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 8:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Morning all,
for a little lite entertainment in the cellar. Everybody see how our own political candidate Kim Kendall is all over the FB side the last 2 days? Announcing candidacy once more, although never saying for what?
How long before we will be honored around here once more with speedsheets?

luvithere — January 26, 2012 at 9:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal

roger, the in appropriate comments have been removed. Thanks for alerting me to those.

And dfsadfh, I'm not sure I completely understand your question. Are you saying that, when you click "View # more," the comments don't load when in chronological ranking? But that, if you're viewing in social ranking, the "View # more" link works just fine? We've been alerted on a few occasions that the "View # more" link doesn't work for some folks, but we thought it had to do with some bigger issues. I'll bring this up to our developer to see what, if anything, he can do to address this issue.

As for the bit about the accurate comment count, I think that might be Facebook-controlled and out of our hands; you're not the first person to bring this up. But I'm happy to look into it.


Matt Wastradowski — January 26, 2012 at 9:45 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Also, dfsadfh, the social ranking only applies to top-level comments. All replies are listed chronologically, regardless of whether the settings are for social/chronological/reverse chronological.


Matt Wastradowski — January 26, 2012 at 9:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Matt, understand that second level comments are chronological. Let's look at yesterday's story on JHB (actually late Tuesday) at the SOTU. First comment under social ranking is Jim Moeller's, but it is obviously a response to Lew Waters. Lew's comment is actually listed as the third comment. Makes it pretty hard to keep up with the sense of the comments if they are out of order.

In answer to your question from 0945, yes that is what I am saying. Just opened another window and am looking at the JHB story again. With Jim's comment as the first one there is a "view 11 more" after the first three sub comments, clicking gives me 11 more comments. Then I change to chronological (the 11 comments go away) and try to reload them by clicking the same "view 11 more" albeit in a different location and the silly thing blinks at me and nothing happens.

At first I thought it was some kind of glitch but then I started experimenting with different browsers and on different FB comment pages and discovered that your FB comments doesn't work the same as the others I checked.

So are you having fun fixing up your new FB mandated Timeline whatever? Quick check of the Yahoo story comments showed a rather large percentage of comments were against it.

dfsadfh — January 26, 2012 at 10:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal

While I respect your coments and appreciate some of your insights, I find it not difficult but absurd if you thought Obama's speech was a great one. per your 9:08 1-25 comment.. Please use both eyes when watching TV and put down whatever your drinking nail. As you know changing the TAX "loophole" on investment income is an and old and tired theme. He uses it to only create an illusion to the working stiffs that don't know any better and sip the same cool aid all day that most of the other followers of obama do. Taxing them at 30% will not change the world when in fact it only decreases the deficit by what 1.9%.. But it's a start...
You hit the Nail on the head with your comments about his speech...He asked congress I believe 14 times to bring this or that type of bill to him and he would sign it.. He couldn't even come up with one other idea outside of taxing the super rich by himself... What a pathetic leader we have... HE is a do nothing President that has made it appear congress isn't doing anything when in fact he rails against every piece of legislation brought forth by the R. He has also committed to the world that nothing will get done for the next year while he is president and if elected agin I can guarentee the same for the next 4 years, is that what our country wants.. I don't...

vanwadreamer — January 26, 2012 at 12:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.,

I knew the area well - my to be inlaws lived in the same neighborhood, and the sister-in-law still in HS attended Camelback.

I never saw Alice either. But his father worked out in Goodyear, at Goodyear Aerospace. Another sister-in-law was his secretary.

roger — January 26, 2012 at 12:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal


Thanks for the clarification.

As for the comments defaulting to social ranking, instead of chronological, I understand your frustration. I've asked our developer to see if we can change the default view. If so, it's something we'll happily explore and look into.

As for the "View # More" problem, that's a really interesting wrinkle. Thanks for alerting me to it; I'll get in touch with our developer and let him know right away. That shouldn't be happening at all. We thought it was related to another issue, but it's not sounding like that was the case.

Thanks again for letting me know!

As for the Facebook timeline, it was pretty easy and painless for me, personally. I'm not a huge fan, but it is kind of cool to be able to easily look at past posts. But I'm not about to list all kinds of life events on my profile. That's overkill, in my opinion.

Matt Wastradowski — January 26, 2012 at 1:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Matt, I just hope that you were able to replicate the "view # more" problem, I hate it when only my computer is having problems.

Mostly out of curiosity, can you point me to a page that explains what the FB social ranking actually is based on? Back to my example above why does Jim Moeller rank higher than Lew Waters? Without an actual count I would have said that I see more comments from Lew than from Jim.

Apparently after three sub level comments the rest are hidden behind the "view # more". Is this correct? Is there some way to change it so that all the comments can be viewed? Why three comments instead of some other number?

dfsadfh — January 26, 2012 at 2:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I wasn't able to replicate the problem, but others have mentioned it. It seems to be a glitchy thing that's not permanent. Someone will have the problem for a little while, and then it starts working again after a spell. But it's still worth looking into.

And Facebook hasn't talked much about what goes into the social ranking. It's a combination of things, from what I can tell. First, if you are logged in, your friends' comments will normally appear near the top. Beyond that, it's a combination of likes and replies, near as I can tell.

In a perfect world, Jim would have replied directly to Lew, rather than create his own thread. But there could have been tech difficulties behind that, or he just didn't for whatever reason.

There is no way for the user to change the number of comments viewed before the "View # more" link appears, either. My guess is that three lets you get the gist of the back-and-forth discussion. Anyone who wants to read through the whole thread can click the "More" link, and anyone who doesn't can skip right over.

Matt Wastradowski — January 26, 2012 at 3:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal

vanwa @ 12:13- "I find it not difficult but absurd if you thought Obama's speech was a great one".

*Obama delivered a strong speech last night, paving the way for the national debate on income disparity.* This quote represents the "difficult" part you have. The "absurd" lies within your SOTU analysis. :)

Assuming you are part of the 99%, congratulations! You just made the bottom 9%!

Poll: High Marks for Obama's Speech
Jan 25, 11:08PM by Lucy Madison Topics Polling
(Credit: CBS)
CBS News Poll analysis by the CBS News Polling Unit: Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Fred Backus and Anthony Salvanto.

Updated: Jan. 26, 12:31AM ET with Final Numbers

An overwhelming majority of Americans approved of the overall message in President Obama's State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, according to a CBS News poll of speech watchers.

According to the poll, which was conducted online by Knowledge Networks immediately after the president's address, 91 percent of those who watched the speech approved of the proposals Mr. Obama put forth during his remarks. Only nine percent disapproved.

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nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 4:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I believe Sarah has found her niche in life.

**Sarah Palin On Alaska Airlines Prayer Cards Being Discontinued: 'I Really Hope This Is Just A Rumor'**

Within the political sphere, Palin's thoughts seem to still wield clout with voters." :)))))

The circus begins @ 5:00 @ CNN

nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 4:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal

*How long before we will be honored around here once more with speedsheets?
luvithere —*

DEAR LORD....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

DeeLittle — January 26, 2012 at 5:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I WANT MY SPEEDSHEETS !!!! Come on KIMMY, give them to me !!!!

hawkeye — January 26, 2012 at 6:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal

**Drudge, conservative media criticize Newt Gingrich**

Newt Gingrich better hope voters who lapped up his delicious hits on the “elite media” and liberals don’t read the Drudge Report this morning.

Or the National Review. Or the American Spectator. Or Ann Coulter.

It’s as if the conservative media over the past 24 hours decided Gingrich is for real, and they need to come clean about the man they really know before it’s too late.

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nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 7 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Dee, Hawk,
I am telling you, our resident speedsheeter is gearing up once more. See his FB comments that have multiplied in hours the last two days. Only a matter of time before we will be honored down here.
One year later, he sounds just as silly as then. And still has not learned to type/spell.
The basement is quiet these days, without any arguments or heat. We NEED Kendall2012 for fun, to get insulted, to provoke, to make us laugh.

luvithere — January 26, 2012 at 7:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal

if superspreadsheeter coes back,


DeeLittle — January 26, 2012 at 7:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Speedsheets??? I thought it was sthpeed theets. Ohhh well I like you like gold??

mxfun118 — January 26, 2012 at 8:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal




even have a bit.....

DeeLittle — January 26, 2012 at 8:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal

**Beware Celebrations of Republican Disarray**
Melissa Harris-Perry January 25, 2012

Democratic loyalists may gleefully herald the Republican disarray, but they should be concerned that the populism of the right is coalescing around the race-baiting, divisive extremism of Newt Gingrich, which seems likely to prove more rabid than that of the existing elite. A new Southern Strategy, fueled by the multimillion-dollar weaponry of Citizens United, could be enough to make me yearn for the good ol’ days of the Republican establishment. Read more @

nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 9:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal

crazy- *If you people don't think this is what he means you are more dense and blind than I think you are.* Not everything is a conspiracy as Beck would have you believe cRaZy. Assuming you have genuine concerns, here are a few links so you can better understand. This is something the GOP has wanted for a long time. It's golden for some! ;)

Basement-I included this link to Beck's show. Beck will say anything to make a buck! Look at the birther comments! LOL!

“Did he just say he wants to consolidate all of the powers into the executive branch? Did he say he’s consolidating the bureaucracy under him? Yes. That’s exactly what he said.” [Beck...of course ;)]

Leaders of the U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee today welcomed the idea of consolidating duplicative and complex federal agencies, pointing to reports from the U.S. Government Accountability Office and information gathered in committee hearings as evidence that shrinking government bureaucracy is long overdue. President Obama today proposed merging six commerce and trade-related agencies, filling in details for the first time on an idea he suggested nearly a year ago in his State of the Union address.

Yet the White House was banking on muted opposition from GOP lawmakers, because the consolidation proposal goes right to the Republicans’ core ideological belief that the government is too large.

In an election year and a political atmosphere of tighter spending, Obama's move is about more than improving a giant bureaucracy. He is attempting to directly counter Republican arguments that he has presided over the kind of government regulation, spending and debt that can undermine the economy - a dominant theme of the emerging presidential campaign.

nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 10:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — January 26, 2012 at 10:17 p.m.

STOP, STOP, STOP.... You are making too much sense. I can't take it anymore!

Bring me speedsheets!

hawkeye — January 26, 2012 at 10:54 p.m. ( | suggest removal

The Columbian's latest poll asks who you'd vote for if WA had a primary. Rick Santorum isn't a choice? Anyhow, Ron Paul is far ahead of all others combined. Hmmm... Anyone know what frobert is up to?

roger — January 27, 2012 at 6:13 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Re: Last night's Repub debate. I saw Wolf as the big winner - finally a moderator who could roll with the attacks on media and keep on track.

Seriously, it looked like it was time to slap Newtie around - and he took a beating. Romney finally stood up to the silliness, but didn't say anything especially interesting. Personally, I thought Santorum and Paul did the best job of getting their message out.

If I was to make an anti-Newtie ad, I think it would be with him alone in a space capsule - Bowie's Space Oddity as the background music - all the smiling people on the ground waving bye bye to him.

roger — January 27, 2012 at 6:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal

roger @ 6:21- He could become the moon's first historian. A lunar lobbyist!

cRAYzy @ 11:08- Can you show me where this proposal would "eliminate the system of checks and balances"? I believe the concept speaks to *improving* checks and balances. Less red tape and bureaucracy for those C & B's to become muddled and mired in. Much of this is to streamline the process that speaks to small business loans and assistance.

But before anyone can currently believe our government can do anything right or just, one has to believe and accept the fact that Barack Obama is a legal citizen of the U.S., a legitimate duly elected President of the United States, and that Barack Obama is a patriotic American with America's best interest at heart.....a mountain too many just can't seem to climb. :(

nailingit — January 27, 2012 at 8:04 a.m. ( | suggest removal

roger- *Anyone know what frobert is up to?* ... I haven't read of any local militant action on gov, I assume Genevieve is okay and still advocating plural marriage? (I'm trying to get the wife on board but she's not buying it). I think the idea is worthy of further study before making a proper assessment. :)) Demi if you're reading................

Also a few others to include hearing more from k_nd. Woosker...what up? Help us to understand what is happening to the Republican party. Basil...?

nailingit — January 27, 2012 at 8:20 a.m. ( | suggest removal

**Pat Sajak: I Hosted 'Wheel Of Fortune' Drunk**

"Vanna and I would go across and have two or three or six and then come and do the last shows and have trouble recognizing the alphabet. They're really great tapes to get a hold of," Sajak said.

nailingit — January 27, 2012 at 9:09 a.m. ( | suggest removal

i didn't watch it. i'm debated out. these debates have gone on longer than some tv shows.

DeeLittle — January 27, 2012 at 1:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — January 27, 2012 at 9:09 a.m

HA!, I watched it drunk.

Got a little dizzy watching that wheel go around but other than that, I didn't notice any difference,

Kinda like the debates.

hawkeye — January 27, 2012 at 2:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Last I heard WA state law says all loads are to be covered. So what's with all these gravel and dirt haulers traveling the highways and SR 503 (and I'm sure there's more roads) with nothing on? And lately they've become quite brazen, what with their signs saying something like construction truck, don't follow.

roger — January 27, 2012 at 5:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Happens around here all the time. I've never seen the trucks out of the pit by Lewisville Park covered.

hawkeye — January 27, 2012 at 6:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal



DeeLittle — January 27, 2012 at 6:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Ron Paul is kicking butt on The Columbian's poll - doubling up on a combined total for Obama, Romney, Newtie, and they all make me sick. That's why I asked about frobert earlier - sounds like he's got a bunch of fellow Paul supporters around here.

And I'll admit to pressing the Paul button a couple of times myself - a lot of his platform is goofy, but I'm finding myself liking him more every time they have one of these debates. This last debate, Santorum was going off about how bad Castro, Chavez, Noriega (?) and a few others were. Blitz asked Paul what he'd do if Raul called him, and Paul said he'd respond with a "Hi - what you callin' to talk about?" answer - definitely a refreshing change from everyone wanting to refight our little 1960's fiasco at the Bay of Pigs.

roger — January 27, 2012 at 7 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Guys this is as good as political satire gets! It really goes bonkers @ the two minute mark!

2012 Debate Audiences: A Tribute To Debate Hate

nailingit — January 27, 2012 at 8:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Went to the Autoshow today. So disappointed. Not one Tesla. Best car in the show was the new Dodge Dart.

hawkeye — January 27, 2012 at 10:32 p.m. ( | suggest removal

hawkeye — January 27, 2012 at 10:32 p.m.,

I agree - both the Roadster and the new S Model are beautiful sports cars. Too bad we don't have the battery technology to make owning one worthwhile. The highest capacity S Model battery gives you about 300 miles at 55 mph. I suspect if I take it up to it's rated 120 mph (or even a safer 90 mph), try to hit the 0-60 in 5.6 sec, or use all the fancy electronics, I'll be lucky to get 100 miles on a charge. Kind of goes against the purpose of owning/driving one of these beauties. Oh well. Anyone seen a Yugo lately?

roger — January 28, 2012 at 7:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Diana Nyad's take on Tebowing. I couldn't care less about his Florida eyepaint Bible verses or his current touchdown prayer - these strike me as no different than what many other players have been doing in the modern sports era. But if what she says about his incessant invoking God is true, I agree he takes it too far.

And to say participation in the group prayer sessions is voluntary is bogus. This has been around for years, and I always refused to participate. My playing time would go to zero, with the explanation being that I wasn't a team player.

On a different note, here's a Tebow observation a friend in Seattle passed on - no idea where he got it. (Also not true - Elway, anyone?) Anyhow - There hasn't been this much interest in a white Bronco since OJ. (Groans all around are appropriate.)

roger — January 28, 2012 at 7:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal

R&H-;*Anyhow - There hasn't been this much interest in a white Bronco since OJ. (Groans all around are appropriate.)* ooooooohh man, good one!

A couple of weeks ago a Chevy Volt parked next to me as I was leaving a Kaiser parking lot. I asked what kind of mileage he was getting as well as a couple of performance questions. 83 MPG was his answer! Great power and handling as well.

I'm glad the current administration saved our unique auto industry. Now GM is #1 in the world.

nailingit — January 28, 2012 at 9:27 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Well, looks like my next career choice is going away. Damn - I may have to actually retire someday.|main5|dl6|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D130897

roger — January 28, 2012 at 9:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal

More than three years into his presidency, these shenanigans are still happening.

**Georgia Birther Hearing Proceeds Without Obama, Without Effect**

The complaints being presented at the hearing are based off various claims that Obama is either beholden to an 1875 Supreme Court ruling that determined "natural born citizens" were people born in the United States to parents who are both U.S. citizens, or that he is using fraudulent documents to prove his eligibility.

California attorney Orly Taitz, queen bee of the birthers and a proponent of the latter belief, stood before what Jay Bookman of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution described as **"100 people ... most of them older white Americans" to argue her plaintiff's case.**

nailingit — January 28, 2012 at 10:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal

From Andrea Damewood's latest Politics is Local entry --

"Councilor Jeanne Stewart had rallied to reclaim her C-Tran board seat, from which she was booted in early 2011."

"But Mayor Tim Leavitt recommended her for the Southwest Washington Regional Transportation Committee instead -- and, she was cool with that."

Isn't the SW WA RTC the ones who'll make decisions on tolling, etc, for the CRC I5 bridge? And didn't Ms. Stewart also run on No Tolls on either bridge last election? In addition to her wanting a C-Tran district wide vote on light rail?

Wonder if The Columbian will follow up on this. It strikes me as odd that Mayor Tim would make this move, given his "support at all costs" position on the bridge heyadin Station,project. What's this all about?

roger — January 28, 2012 at 11:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal

So The Pres is going to ignore the subpoena issued by the judge at the Georgia Birther trial, and his lawyers are "suggesting" that the judge just throw the case out. Sounds good to me, except that (from judge's reaction) it appears he's got his back up because the refusal to appear in response to a subpoena is causing him problems. Nice little dilemma there.

There's a related issue on the home front. Seems some guy has declared himself sovereign, and is suing everyone and their mother (to include Mayor Tim) for a traffic ticket he got. (Andrea Damewood covers it in her All Politics section.)

The part that causes a problem for me is the closing to the article.
"What does this mean for the Vancouver City Council? Tomorrow morning at their budget retreat, they have to give the city attorney funding authority to pay for Leavitt's defense."

Now, maybe this is a bit naive, but wouldn't a more appropriate response by Mayor Tim, The Sheriff, and all others being sued to just show up, answer all questions with something along the lines of "I have no response to something as silly as that." and let the judge make the only common sense ruling possible in this case? Why does the City Council have to pay anything?

roger — January 28, 2012 at 12:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Anyhow - There hasn't been this much interest in a white Bronco since OJ.

I heard that the ONLY reason he signed with Denver is that it's the team closest to heaven. (mile high city, another groan)

Still don't care.

hawkeye — January 28, 2012 at 1:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I think its time for our room monitor to put out a warning about bad, tasteless jokes.

roger — January 28, 2012 at 3:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal

You started it....

hawkeye — January 28, 2012 at 6:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal

It was a momentary loss of control - possibly due to receiving another "here's your membership card" mailing from AARP. Sorry, I don't see retirement in the cards for another 10 years or so. So quit trying to get me to pretend that I am!!

Anyhow, and whatever the reason - I am deeply ashamed.

roger — January 28, 2012 at 6:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal

No you aren't.

I got my AARP mailings when I turned 50 and got really ticked off at them. Ten years later and retired, OK, not so ticked off but some of the info is nice to know. I wish I wasn't retired but right now it fits the situation.

hawkeye — January 28, 2012 at 6:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal

People that run scams (Joe Friday used to call them bunko artists:) must love the tea party crowd, i.e. the Glenn Beck gold scam that's under Federal investigation for fraud. But when someone says they will televise Ann Coulter in HD? Ahhh...COME ON!

**Michele Bachmann, Ann Coulter Named As Witnesses In Tea Party Lawsuit**

Former Republican presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann has been named a witness for the defense in a lawsuit against Tea Party HD, a failed television network founded in 2010.

Ann Coulter and Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips were also named as witnesses for the multimillion-dollar federal lawsuit surrounding the failure of the network billed as the "world's first HD provider of news about the Tea Party," according to The Tennessean.

An initial $19 million lawsuit was filed in November against California businessman Anthony Loiacono by GOP fundraiser Bill Hemrick, along with a group of conservatives from Tennessee who claim Loiacono used the investments they made in the network for personal matters. Loiacono countersued for $1 million alleging defamation and abuse of process.

Bachmann is likely included thanks to her Tea Party HD-produced response to Obama's 2011 State of the Union address, The Hill reports. Bachmann also has direct ties to Hemrick, who served as the state finance chairman for her presidential campaign.

nailingit — January 28, 2012 at 7:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I watched Brewer yuck it up on Huckerbee's show tonight. What a piece of work. Gloating how her book sales have shot through the roof since her "confrontation" with our President. Her publicist most likely suggested doing this. Gleefully declaring she would never "disrespect the office of the President" with a wink and a nod. I believe this has become code for not accepting Obama as a US citizen. Pathetic. How low will these repubs sink, and for how long?

Where are the reasonable republicans (to include the ones that post here) demanding accountability? Sometimes I think they no longer exist..........

Obama's tarmac tiff with Jan Brewer: The president fights back

It was a tarmac tiff that lasted no more than a minute but encapsulated the president’s mood of the moment: fed up with the GOP.

Obama seemed to sense that Brewer wanted to use him as a prop. She gave him a handwritten letter inviting him to the border, replicating a similar move by Gov. Rick Perry in 2010 to confront Obama on immigration, which blew up into a mini-firestorm. But after Brewer skewered Obama in her book “Scorpions for Breakfast,” describing him as “condescending” during their last meeting, he essentially asked why he would put himself in that position again.
It was a rare moment of semi-public defiance by a president who is more often accused of being too passive. **But this past week illustrated why Obama no longer feels the need to show Republicans the deference he once did.**

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nailingit — January 28, 2012 at 8:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal

**But this past week illustrated why Obama no longer feels the need to show Republicans the deference he once** **did.**

I don't know how to read Obama. While the economy is tanked, his lip service seems to think 2.5% growth is OK, even though that number will keep unemployment at over 16%-the real number. Blame it on whoever, to date, his mis-administration has had 3 long years to fix it, and as the tax cuts for the rich, this mess is now his, not Bush's or the gopper's. Had he focused on the real problem 3 years ago-the economy-maybe all the political bs and gridlock might have moved. He didn't, he focused on healthcare, while a great thing, didn't address the major problem. The gopper's will dismantle the healthcare reform as soon as they can. This will probably tie up our worthless Congress for 2 years or so un-doing several years of infighting. Couldn't Obama or any of his people see the futility of such crap? Why didn't the D's when they could, without the R's-the NO party-do something for the economy?

This will bite Obama, and bite him hard. The Gopper's will attack him big time, go to the wedge issues, and gain traction on that. In 'merika, hot button issues rule. Don't look for an electorate to look a year or two down the road, we're not that far-sighted. In fact, we're dumber than hell. Abortion, immigration, etc, as irrelevant as those issues may be to the true problems we face, eventually will become the issues. We have met the enemy.....

mrd — January 28, 2012 at 10 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Why didn't the D's when they could, without the R's-the NO party-do something for the economy?

mrd, you know as well as anybody that the damage to the economy took more than 4 or 5 years to create. It's doubtful that it could be repaired in two years. As we have seen, it will most likely take several more years to get even.

hawkeye — January 28, 2012 at 10:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal

***Well, this could hurt Newt......***

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Former presidential candidate Herman Cain, who last week endorsed "the American people," announced his support on Saturday of another entity -- this time a Republican hoping to win the White House.

"I hereby officially and enthusiastically endorse Newt Gingrich for president of the United States," Cain said at a GOP fundraiser.

Speaking to supporters on the day he left the race last month, the former head of Godfather's Pizza said he would be making an endorsement. But at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in South Carolina last week, he announced that his official endorsement would be of "we the people."

While Cain publicly promoted his endorsement last week, the one he made Saturday night came with little warning. The announcement was a surprise to Gingrich staff, and the traveling press who most frequently cover the former House speaker were not in attendance after boycotting the price the campaign was charging for chartered flights.

hawkeye — January 28, 2012 at 10:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal


true, but I think their priorities were reversed. the importance of fixing the economy is greater than health care reform, i feel. In addition, the R's will dismantle as much as possible the health care reform package until it's worthless or gone. A few things have been gutted already. Health care reform could become a fool's errand.

mrd — January 29, 2012 at 7:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal

mrd- And to add no one could have predicted that Congress would block everything from debt ceiling increases to payroll tax cuts. What Congress has done is just downright anti-American.

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 8:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal


I don't think anyone would have needed to predict Congress was going to fail miserably, the R's pretty much declared war on Obama when they took the house, and it's been all downhill since.

mrd — January 29, 2012 at 8:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal


I think that the President (at the time) thought the health care bill was going to be a big part of fixing the economy. I believe it still is. I also think it was a important for him to get that going in order to stabilize the work force and lower employment costs. I find it unbelievable that the R's in congress are pushing so hard against it, had it been introduced by one of their members (Romney-care) it would have been warmly welcomed.

I am truly disappointed in our congress.

hawkeye — January 29, 2012 at 8:39 a.m. ( | suggest removal

In 2008 health care was on track to take up 40% of our GDP by 2018. Unsustainable. The republicans messaging has worked with most. Then they want to screw seniors and do away with medicare, no doubt bankrupting and killing off the aging. Healthcare is a huge single issue with fixing the economy. These used car dealers now want to sell us "vouchers"! And appealing to the largest voting block to do it! Promising the self-serving message of ... "hey, it won't kick in for the next ten years, and you that are currently on it will be taken care of!) And much done by Fox and conservative radio! Kool-aid Kool-aid tastes great! Kool-aid Kool-aid...Can't Wait! Kind of like our city parks issue, most fifty and over righties on FB have the "I got mine now you can't have yours" message to the younger generation. Pitiful. Most could care less about their grandkids being able to enjoy the very basic things in life, let alone have sustainable healthcare.

No one saw this type of extreme anti-American Congress coming, except the special interest groups (to include having a few Supreme Court Justices in their back pocket), that funded bagger politicians. Otherwise, no one would have voted for them. The approval ratings and polls support this.

2010...It was the old "throw all the bums out!!!" argument, combined with a racially charged media and Kazillions of corporate $$$ money thrown at it.

What a segue into possibly, my bestest and mostest favorite avatar ever! (phonics and make-ups for GOP drinkers!)

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 10:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal

**Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice**

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

"Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience."

"As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias."

Please read more @

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 11:07 a.m. ( | suggest removal

"Nothing but the facts ma'am, nothing but the facts."

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 1:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Quite interesting indeed how you constantly bang out miss information from pure democrat, liberal sites about IQ's of repubs. Just what about repubs are you afraid of? crazytrain

Exactly who is this "miss information" that you speak of?

hawkeye — January 29, 2012 at 2:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal

This is the city. Vancouver. Not the one in Canada. This is the way it looks from downtown - CRC, BRT and too damn many people. They work and play everyday in P Town by the thousands; then they live here and deplete our resources costing the city millions. Every month they throw away thousands of dollars of city time, causing our elected to listen to stale people, with stale complaints and stale ideas. Damning socialism while in the same stale breath paying for unsuccessful halitosis treatment with Medicare. Some of 'em write on the Columbian Forums; some of 'em are good people that end up hurting themselves. When they do I pick up the pieces. I'm a Forum Contributor. I'm a Democrat. I'm Joedem Friday.

It was Sunday, January 29. We were working the day watch on the Columbian forum detail. My partner's Fairness; my boss is Justice, head of personal beliefs. My name's Joedem Friday.

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 2:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal

It was 2:55 when we got to the town hall meeting. It was a crazy day. A train was careening off the rails and C-Tran was being blamed. Did the fact that C-Tran runs buses and not trains get in the way? Not with this crowd. The Whiners were finishing up with a strange woman waving cutout Columbian articles, while demanding the public take notice of her incoherency and self-promotion. It was then we uncovered evidence of foul play. A piece of paper lay on the floor. Scribbled in English were the words...Saul Alinski, Socialism, Austerity, Europe, Class warfare. It appears an overundercover GOP agent had compromised the proceedings. Pieces needed to be picked up. It starts with me. I'm a Forum Contributor. I'm a Democrat. I'm Joedem Friday.

It was 7:05 p.m. when we got back to the station. We stopped off for a shot and a chaser at Dick's on the way back. It was only a few weeks ago Dick's was robbed, a jewelry salesman was slugged and robbed of $20,000 in precious stones. It took us weeks of investigation before we discovered the man responsible for the hold-up. It took weeks more to gather all of the evidence. We needed one more thing: his statement.

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 3:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal


It's midnight. The jewelry heist at Dick's was a ruse. The precious stones turned out to be two egg shaped objects that were depleted from an agenda full of fear and lies.

The man responsible yet won't give a statement? It's Dick himself. And a man named Bush.

It is 8:04 the next morning. The Columbian paper reads "Man loses stones to a cooperative Bush", story in the printed edition".

These are two pieces I refuse to pick up. Both appear to be stale and lifeless. I'll leave it to the town hall attendees.

nailingit — January 29, 2012 at 3:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal


It was the only thing worth commenting on.

If you seriously believe all that BS you said, you must be a Republican't. So, you want a free pass to send your kid to another school because public school isn't good enough for him/her? Seems like you want something MORE than what you pay for. Too bad for you on several levels. You want your kid to be smarter, work with them, teach them, educate them, be involved in their education. Want someone else to make them smarter, pay the extra money. Seems like your problem is you expect someone else to do all the hard work for you. You popped the little curtain climber out, take responsibility for them.

Or don't.

hawkeye — January 29, 2012 at 4:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Not married, don't have kids --- not surprised!

"The democrats oppose school choice, or allowing vouchers for children to attend private schools."

Wow, you are an enigma. Aren't you?

"If you would have READ what I said and understood, but then again most dem's can't and don't."

Or refuse to be sucked in.

hawkeye — January 29, 2012 at 7:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal

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