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-The Meaning of Memorial Day: A Military Widow Reflects on Life, Loss and Moving Forward-

nailingit — May 26, 2014 at 8:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal

My Dad was in the "Merchant Marines" during WWII. They were the suppliers of everything military to the troops and they did it without any arms. They took fire several times but had nothing to defend themselves with. He and his ship were in Hawaii when they were hit by a huge tsunami. It was only about 20 years ago that they were recognized as being part of the military and got some benefits for their service. Not too long after that he passed away but was buried at Willamette National.

Hawkman — May 26, 2014 at 8:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Southern Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy no longer is a Republican. Bundy, who is embroiled in a dispute over grazing with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, has switched his affiliation to the Independent American Party. He and his wife, Carol, signed registration forms to the cheers of supporters at an Independent American Party gathering in Las Vegas on Friday night. The event was held to honor Bundy for what organizers called "his courage in standing up for state sovereignty." Bundy and his supporters, some of them armed militia members, thwarted a BLM roundup of his cattle near Bunkerville in April. The BLM says he owes more than $1 million in grazing fees and penalties for trespassing without a permit over 20 years, but he refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.

Hawkman — May 26, 2014 at 8:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Memorial Day - 2014

To all the soldiers who gave their lives for me I want to say Thank You. My heart aches for the loss of your future, and for those final moments you had to experience. And my heart expands at your everlasting and boundless gift. Thank You Always.

To all the soldiers and veterans who gave your youth, energy, bodies, and courage in the face of trials, hardship, loss, and adversity, I want to say Thank You So Much for caring about this great country, and for all the citizens who don't spend nearly enough energy of their own recognizing and empathising with your contribution and how it relates to their daily lives.

Thank You so much for your Service, and for the peace and safety I've had in my own life because of you. Be Blessed.

jacjak — May 26, 2014 at 2:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal

You won't see this on FOX

By Tom Miles

GENEVA, May 26 (Reuters) - Carbon dioxide levels throughout the northern hemisphere hit 400 parts per million (ppm) for the first time in human history in April, an ominous threshold for climate change, the World Meteorological Organization said on Monday.

The 400 ppm level in the atmosphere, up 40 percent since wide use of fossil fuels began with the Industrial Revolution, is rapidly spreading southwards. First recorded in 2012 in the Arctic, it has since become the norm for the Arctic spring.

The WMO expects the global annual average carbon dioxide concentration to be above 400 ppm in 2015 or 2016. Rising concentrations of the heat-trapping gas raise risks of more heatwaves, droughts and rising sea levels.

"Time is running out," WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud said in a statement.

Hawkman — May 26, 2014 at 5:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak — May 26, 2014 at 2:38 p.m.

Well stated...and I agree with your statement.

There is a wonderful, heartfelt tribute written by Lew Waters on his blog...well worth the time to read. Be prepared, though. It might bring a few tears to those of us with a tender heart who have lost loved ones who took the leap to protect our beautiful nation.

goldenoldie — May 26, 2014 at 6:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal

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documen — May 27, 2014 at 4:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Uh oh.
Who left the door open?

Drift — May 27, 2014 at 5:36 a.m. ( | suggest removal

I'm looking at the captcha box and all that's there is a picture of a pole. No numbers, words or anything to test you with. Kind of weird.

Of course I clicked on the post comment box and it kicked me back.

Hawkman — May 27, 2014 at 6:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Hope, everyone had an enjoyable Memorial Day. Our neighborhood association had a community beautification in the morning yesterday, and cleaned and weeded one of the parks, along a couple overgrown slopes, and at the neighborhood entrance sign. Then we had a street BBQ, and about 65 or so neighbors showed up. It was really fun, and met all sorts of folks who live close but never had the chance to run into. Oh, and the city provided the bbq, tables, and the barriers (and permission) to block off both ends of the street. And, the weather was perfect.

I see Paul Harris has another opponent. The guy says he's Libertarian, but the first thing he wants to do if elected is improve GMO food labeling. He also thinks there are government 'strings' attached to Common Core, so wants to opt out of that. And of course, end Obamacare, and blames Harris for 'paving' it's way... no alternative plan provided or necessary, apparently.

So, am I misunderstanding what a Libertarian is? Thought it had to do with opposing authority and allowing personal judgements, tho the definitions at Wikipedia and elsewhere seem to be all over the map on specifics, but fairly clear regarding business having a free capitalist hand, and the market will auto correct if there's a problem. So what's that about GMO's? And, if there is a problem with labels, and all there is the 'night watchman' part of Libertarianism, who resolves the problem?

jacjak — May 27, 2014 at 6:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal

I view Libertarianism as more of a cult, than a viable political party. Not unlike Masonry in some ways. Given the brief time of it's involvement, and the completely unworkable answers it has to anything America, it's become nothing more than a weird right wing elitist club, inspired by the fantasies of a 1950's Russian Hollywood screenplay writer named Ayn, and driven by white male corporate interests. Most don't understand the big picture or care, as long as they can thump the constitution, and praise the English elite.

No one takes themselves more seriously than these guys. The more "conservative" one is, the purer the creature. :)) The constitution is their bible, and subject to whatever interpretation King James allows.

They do promote some good basic concepts. Concepts most people already embrace as an individual. But like the bible thumpers, these campers aren't happy until they enforce their beliefs nationwide.

God that was liberating!

nailingit — May 27, 2014 at 7:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Is it my computer, or is the C changing the format.

nailingit — May 27, 2014 at 8:27 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Oh, and in all that cleanup of our neighborhood yesterday, with 2 heaping pickup loads to H & H, and 6 large bins, not one newspaper was picked up. Couple beer bottles and soda cans, even a diaper pin (remember those?), but no Columbian papers.

nailingit, not seeing any changes with the format yet. My computer is so old, right up front I suspect any problem is mine, so don't like any changes. Mostly use it for research, writing, reading, email, and a little game stuff like Sudoku or Seek & Find... nothing w/ lots of graphics. Have a notepad and an older laptop, but like my old desktop w/ it's nice big keyboard, but not sure about replacing it with all the other electronics under one roof, so I cobble it along.

jacjak — May 27, 2014 at 10:03 a.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak — My lap top almost dates back to Dubya's last mid term, but it's smarter and more capable than Bush ever was.

Having said that, it was either on my end, or the server...or something.

When I do upgrade, I'm considering weening myself from Apple. Then I wonder, would that take a chopstick from the hands of an already under paid abused worker...

Apple ethics sound terrible across the way. I've been disappointed with worker abuses I've read about.

nailingit — May 27, 2014 at 1:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Well, I see M&M; are at it again. Looking out for all of us.

Clark County commissioners voted Tuesday to ban recreational marijuana facilities in unincorporated Clark County.

The vote came after a raucous public meeting in the county’s Public Service Center. At one point, deputies from the Clark County Sheriff’s Office were called in following words, including one audience member referring to another as a “phony and a liar.”

Another audience member elicited gasps when he swore and said he wold “rape the county financially.”

Initiative 502, which legalized possession of up to 1 ounce of marijuana for adults ages 21 and older, was approved by voters in 2012.

The Liquor Control Board has capped the maximum number of pot shops statewide at 334 and said Clark County could be home to up to 15 marijuana retailers, including six in the unincorporated areas where commissioners have control. The rest would be in cities: six stores in Vancouver and one store apiece in Camas, Washougal and Battle Ground.

Commissioners signaled earlier this year that they were considering a ban.

Hawkman — May 27, 2014 at 2:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman — May 27, 2014 at 2:51 p.m.

There's just not enough expletives to describe these two.

nailingit — May 27, 2014 at 3:32 p.m. ( | suggest removal

-Coffee + Marijuana = Best Morning Ever-

As legalized marijuana becomes more commercially widespread in states like Colorado and Washington, the stoner culture is being turned on to a wealth of new cannabis products that not only provide pot enthusiasts with alternatives to dime bags and rolling papers, but also with some rather ingenious and tasty methods for catching a buzz.

Perhaps the latest example of this marijuana metamorphosis is a Washington-based company that hopes to reinvent the idea of the coffee pot. Mirth Provisions, a new beverage company owned and operated by Longview resident, Adam Stites, is preparing to launch a line of cannabis-infused coffee drinks called “Legal.”

These bud beverages come in five coffee flavors, including two cold brew variations, aimed at getting the stoner class ripped up at the seams. "The coffee drinks give you an uplifting head high. We call it the wake and bake drink," Stites told My Northwest. Stites says each bottle comes packed with enough THC to melt consumers into the back of their furniture -- 20 mgs per bottle -- but not enough to render an amateur catatonic and immobile. 

"We want the experience to be more similar to that if you had a nice IPA or glass of wine,” he said. “We don't want to pack so much THC into every one of our drinks that it's unpleasant, especially for people that are just getting into marijuana.”

Perhaps what is most interesting about Legal beverages is that each drink is brewed using a different strain of marijuana to produce a fluctuation in effect. For example, the company’s Rainer Cherry drink aims to give consumers “an uplifting, euphoric head high and a gentle body buzz,” while its Lemon Ginger flavor offers “a powerful body buzz and a smooth, freeing head high.”

Once Stites receives final approval for his producer/processor license, which he expects will happen in the next few weeks, he will begin distributing his cannabis coffee to retailers across Washington.

nailingit — May 27, 2014 at 4:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal

AAAARRRRRGGGGG!!!! Why am I NOT surprised!!!

Hours of interviews and a closed-door meeting ended with impasse Tuesday, as Clark County’s two commissioners failed to agree on whom they should appoint to join their group.

Commissioners David Madore and Tom Mielke said they would try to reach an agreement when they meet on Tuesday, June 3.

The two men had conducted hour-long interviews with candidates Craig Pridemore, Kelly Love Parker and Ed Barnes since 1 p.m. They then met in executive session for about 45 minutes before announcing they could not agree on appointment.

"It's a serious decision," Pridemore said after the announcement. "I wonder who they will be consulting with over the next few days."

Hawkman — May 27, 2014 at 5:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman @ 5:36 p.m.

45 minutes in executive session, but they could not agree??? Did Mielke hold out against Madore's verbal salvos? Or did Madore hold out against Mielke's ingratiating smirk between naps?

Did cows start flying today? Or hell freeze over?

jacjak — May 27, 2014 at 8:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal

And then this from the Clark County to the South (Nevada)

Medical marijuana is coming to Clark County, but a state senator wants to take it a step further.

On Tuesday, Sen. Richard S. "Tick" Segerblom kicked off an initiative to legalize, tax and regulate recreational marijuana like alcohol.

Segerblom said he wants to make Las Vegas the "Amsterdam of the West," a place where tourists will flock to try marijuana, then go home and tell their friends about it.

Segerblom needs 100,000 signatures to put the initiative on the 2016 ballot. As of Tuesday afternoon, he had two.

The senator, who is working with Joe Brenzy of the Nevada Cannabis Industry Association, wants anyone 21 years old and up to be able to purchase an ounce of pot.

"This is our third try," Brenzy said.

Brenzy and Segerblom believe the third time is a charm, thanks to states like Colorado challenging the social stigma surrounding recreational pot.

"The polling has slowly increased. More people are admitting current laws don't work, they failed. We need a better way," Brenzy said.

In Colorado, taxes from recreational marijuana are expected to bring in about $100 million in the next few years.

Segerblom said legalizing marijuana in Nevada and slapping a 15 percent tax on it would provide a huge boost for our state.

"People are going to come here, get their picture taken in the dispensary, buy a joint, buy a T-shirt, go home and show their friends what they did in Las Vegas," he said.

Segerblom said the plan is a win-win for the state. The tax money would fund schools and discourage Nevadans from obtaining marijuana illegally.

"The fact is people use substances to enjoy themselves – they're already using it. Let's control it, tax it. Let's make money off it," Segerblom said.

If Segerblom gathers enough signatures, the initiative will be presented to the 2015 Nevada Legislature. If legislators shoot it down, it could wind up on the November 2016 ballot.

If approved, product would be available for purchase at medical marijuana dispensaries. The tax wouldn't apply to medical marijuana patients, however.

Hawkman — May 27, 2014 at 9:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal

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Deveen — May 28, 2014 at 3:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Someone, please close the darned door!

Drift — May 28, 2014 at 6:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal

More on Clark County's best entertainment blog!

Lew is chumming (again!) for more comments with his latest write. He states he won't support candidates aligned with Liberty Alliance. Such drama!

If anyone had any doubts about this concocted PCO drama being a personality issue, rather than one of protocol, this write erases it.

Lew has become a local democrats best friend with his biting and divisive rhetoric spewed at fellow right wingers.

If only more visited his blog...

As my stomach allows, I'll do my best to promote it here.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 7:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal

A Conservative Nightmare-A Liberal Dream

-Poll: Conservative edge shrinking-

The conservative advantage on social and economic issues is shrinking, a new poll says.

According to a Gallup poll on Wednesday, more Americans still identify as conservative than as liberal in those two areas, but the gaps between conservatives and liberals are the smallest they have been since the polling firm began tracking the question 14 years ago.

Thirty-four percent of those surveyed say they are conservative on social issues, compared with 30 percent who say they are liberal, but the 4-percentage-point gap is continuing to shrink, decreasing by 1 point since 2013 and 6 points since 2012.

The conservative edge on economic issues has declined from 31 points in 2010 to 21 points in the most recent survey.

The closing gaps in both areas largely come from registered Democrats increasingly identifying themselves as liberal on social and economic issues.

“Conservatism is still the dominant ideology in the U.S. when Americans are asked to describe their political views overall and when asked about their views on economic and social issues separately,” Gallup wrote in its analysis. “However, the conservative advantages are shrinking, in large part because of Democrats’ increasing likelihood of describing their views as liberal rather than conservative or moderate.”

Gallup added, “With the conservative advantage on social issues down to four points, it is possible in the next few years there will be more Americans describing themselves as socially liberal than as socially conservative. This movement is consistent with trends Gallup has seen on specific issues, perhaps most notably Americans’ views toward gay rights and legalizing marijuana.”

The Gallup annual Values and Beliefs poll was conducted May 8-11 with 1,028 adults on landlines and cellphones. The margin for error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 7:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Nail I don't put much stock in most polls. I also don't think that the government should have much say in peoples personal choices such as gay rights and marijuana. But I do feel that voters need to pay more attention in how our tax dollars are spent. I feel that there is way to much waste in government spending. I also feel that to much is spent trying to save the world. Especialy since we have so many pressing problems here at home. When we have our own children going to bed at night hungry and not knowing how to survive from one day to the next. Does that make me a conservative or a liberal. I really don't care to much. I look at what is right and what is wrong. I don't like labels either on me or anyone. When our soldiers are asked to go to war for us are they asked if they are conservative or liberal? I don't think so. At least I was never asked when I was in the service.

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 11:02 a.m. ( | suggest removal

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 11:02 a.m.

Romney didn't trust polls either.

A good poll with solid metrics can provide a window to whatever subject it's addressing.

Ever since I can remember, conservatives have played the "most of America is conservative" card, when not only addressing social issues, but for justifying hard line extremist policy stances A-Z.

"When our soldiers are asked to go to war for us are they asked if they are conservative or liberal? I don't think so. At least I was never asked when I was in the service."

I'm not understanding how your comment connects with this.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 11:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal

I think what I was try to convey is that a lot of us don't subscribe to being either conservative or liberal. Both have some valid points. But in the end we as citizens have to live with what is decided for us. We can and do try to change the way things are done through our power of our vote. Am I conservative with money issues both my own and our tax dollars, yes I am. Am I liberal about helping our fellow citizens and letting each live their own lives, yes I am. Only a fool won't look at both sides and see that there is good there. The only exception may be our current BOCC. I don't see much good there.

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 12:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal

timerick — Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, we're all a little liberal, a little conservative, a little sane and a little crazy. I guess that's what makes the world go round.

Given subsets within both parties, and nuanced ideologies, nothing is perfect for sure. Although setting a Conservative/Moderate/Liberal as a baseline helps provide a view to this societal shift.

I thought this was interesting, and something I've noticed in the numbers before, is the spike in conservatism when this "Brotha From Anotha" took office. Once everyone took a deep breath, things calmed down.

"The trends toward lower conservative advantages were evident as far back as 2004 on social ideology and 2007 on economic ideology, though both were interrupted in 2009 and 2010 when President Barack Obama and a Democratic Congress passed left-leaning legislation, most notably the Affordable Care Act. In those years, the percentage of Americans describing themselves as conservative on the two dimensions moved back up, most likely in reaction to their perceptions of the more liberal administration. Since then, however, the trends have continued moving in a less conservative direction."

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 1:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal

"Only a fool won't look at both sides and see that there is good there. The only exception may be our current BOCC. I don't see much good there."

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 12:25 p.m.

Sad but true. Someone awhile back, (maybe roger?) said they thought the decision to hire a Commish would be kicked to Inslee. I remember either thinking or responding that this wouldn't be likely as M&M; would be afraid to be seen as weak and indecisive. I mean, if these guys can't at least do this.....

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 2:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I would agree with Roger on this one. The M&M;'s know who they want out of the three they have to choose from. They have had plenty of time to pick. I see it going to Inslee also. And yes it makes them look weak. It is as though they are afraid to choose. They seem to have had no problem rocking the boat before so why this now? I would like to hear what Manthou has to say on this.

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 2:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I think the BOCC are not making a decision on purpose. The longer they can drag it out...

Regarding our prior conversation about extremists on the liberal side. I posed the question to a friend of mine, in person, over a bottle of wine. After hearing once again that there are extremes on both sides, I flat out asked to please name one on the left. Long silence, finally "can't name one name".
As suspected.

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 2:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal

By the way, where are Roger and Manthou?

And what is up with captcha? I got a short sequence of a few numbers. Not complaining....

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 2:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal

By the way, where are Roger and Manthou?

And what is up with captcha?

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 2:23 p.m. ( | suggest removal

and posting twice??? Captcha stinketh today

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 2:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal

timerick — luvithere — I agree M&M; know who they want. Anything to muck up the process. If Inslee names, then they can target him as well as the nominee for problems. These guys are experts in the world of displaced blame & CYA.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 2:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal

"Regarding our prior conversation about extremists on the liberal side. I posed the question to a friend of mine, in person, over a bottle of wine. After hearing once again that there are extremes on both sides, I flat out asked to please name one on the left. Long silence, finally "can't name one name".
As suspected."

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 2:21 p.m.

Allen West would beg to differ. According to him there are 78 to 81 members of Congress, who are also members of the Communist Party.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 2:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Nail I don't see any reason for them to muck up the process. They have control of the board no matter who they pick. If it were me in their shoes I would pick the weakest link. It would make it easier for them. As far as blame goes with the control they already have the blame has nowhere to go but to them. By the way I have been reading some posts from Lew Waters. He is doing some real stirring up. I like Lew, I don't agree with some of what he says but I give him credit for standing up for what he believes.

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 2:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal

timerick — May 28, 2014 at 2:53 p.m.

"Nail I don't see any reason for them to muck up the process."

Exactly. When has reason ever stood in M&M;'s way.


Ain't Lew great!

His blog's a hoot!

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 3:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 2:46 p.m.
Allan west, Allan Schmest. He wouldn't recognize communism if he lived in it.

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 3:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Of course I'm just stating my opinions which really don't mean a whole hellava lot. For what it's worth, I'm currently watching Rodan and Godzilla bounce boulders off of each other, while wondering aloud, "Why doesn't Godzilla's Atomic Breath affect Rodan?" "It's like it's nothing!", in the thrillaganza classic- 'Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster'

Just lending some context to my opinion.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 3:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Um, I don't know about Roger but I think I made the same prediction. The M&M; boys may or may not decide for themselves but I suspect the problem (in Madore's mind) is if they choose the (perceived) weakest one, they'll be called out for it. If they choose the strongest one, it will cause them headaches. And then there's Ed. If they pick Ed, they'll really catch Hell. Not only from the outside but from Ed himself. He won't let up on them and it will create discontent within the ranks.

Now, on another subject. Talk about CLUELESS!

NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News Channel has gone Hollywood for its latest hire. The news network is bringing on actress Stacey Dash as a paid contributor.
Dash is known for her roles in the "Clueless" movie and television series. The black actress landed on the political radar for endorsing Republican Mitt Romney over Democrat Barack Obama in the last presidential election. She was heavily criticized in the black community for supporting the white candidate.
Fox News programming executive Bill Shine said Wednesday that Dash will offer cultural analysis and commentary across several of the network's programs.
Fox and the other cable news networks have been slumping in the ratings with a relatively slow news stretch this year.
Fox's list of contributors includes Karl Rove, James Carville, George Will, Dennis Miller and Sarah Palin.

Hawkman — May 28, 2014 at 5:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I don't recall hearing of this church before. Kinda creepy...

-Judge: Beliefs are evidence in trial-

Oregon couple accused of depriving medical care

Is this what our County Commissioners believe? Is this the doctrine they bring into County chambers for M&M; government prayer time? I do recall something about the Pentecostal faith & Dave. Just curious.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 8:32 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Well, there's a familiar mustache...

VANCOUVER, Wash. (KOIN 6) — Jon Alldritt has been coming to a public park on the Columbia River for more than 30 years. The shoreline used to be covered with trees.

Now tree stumps fill the area.

He blames it on the new housing development in the area, and said homeowners are looking for that perfect view of the river.

Since the area between the river and the development is public property, he’s fighting back.

“The problem is, is you call the city and report it, you call parks department and report it, you call code enforcement and report it and none of them do anything,” Alldritt told KOIN 6 News.

Charles Ray withe Urban Forestry Department said the City of Vancouver is aware of illegal tree cutting in that area. Some residents have been issued warnings.

“The city is not allowing anybody to cut down trees,” he said.

Under the Shoreline Management Act, the city is first required to issue a warning and allow for restoration. If they do it again, they could be issued a criminal trespassing citation.

“We can move forward with trespassing issue against the property owner,” Ray said. “Here in Washington state it is triple damage, so restoration costs could be triple.”

The city gets about 50 complaints each year but only issues about 14 citations, KOIN 6 News learned. It’s hard to enforce because there are few witnesses and there is a lack of resources.

Alldritt is one resident who is going to make sure the city sticks to their word.

Hawkman — May 28, 2014 at 9:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman — May 28, 2014 at 9:30 p.m

I say, good for him. He is stepping up. Did you see the new story about homeowner who cut trees NOT on his lot for better view? he just got slapped with a large fine, rightly so.

I posted a couple times earlier, but my posts are no longer there. I had weird captchas also at that time. Anybody got issues also?

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 9:54 p.m. ( | suggest removal

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 9:54 p.m

Other than a formatting issue I spoke of earlier, nothing on this end.

They should let Jon pen his own column each week. It'd be like Fox News on acid.

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 10:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal

luvithere: Thanks for asking. I have been traveling. I miss the conversation here and try to check in. With the time difference, it is hard to sync.

timerick and nailingit: Months ago I predicted M and M would pass off the choice of Stuart's replacement to the governor. This impasse (how did Mielke maul that word?) is likely a pre-determined ruse. They will declare none of the candidates worthy via the staged "deadlock" and blame the governor for the "poor" choice. Keeps them in the hero box with their voting base. By the way, Kelly Love-Parker really put it to them in the interview. If you don't watch any of these, try to catch hers at the very least.

Only 3 freeholders voted against the charter, with Ann Rivers, while absent for the vote due to a family emergency, apparently in support of it. Let's see how she does with active campaigning for its passage. Some of her constituents will not be pleased.

manthou — May 29, 2014 at 5:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Glad to see some "conservatives" getting enraged about illegal tree removal.

A few years ago, my neighbors and I caught a developer downing hundred years old Doug firs in a city lot. No permit. No mitigation plan. The city levied a $10,000 fine, which eventually was dismissed due to his successful legal challenge.

Those residents with a river view are trying to preserve their property values in any way they can, it seems, with the BNSF trains running through their yards carrying volatile oil and horn noise.

manthou — May 29, 2014 at 5:39 a.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — May 28, 2014 at 10:27 p.m.

Read his response to the $28K article.


I know he means well but does he not know?

Hawkman — May 29, 2014 at 6:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Those residents with a river view are trying to preserve their property values in any way they can, it seems, with the BNSF trains running through their yards carrying volatile oil and horn noise.

manthou — May 29, 2014 at 5:39 a.m.

And ALL those things were there when they moved in. Not a leg to stand on.

Hawkman — May 29, 2014 at 6:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman — May 29, 2014 at 6:41 a.m.

If he does, he's hiding it well. He gets an A for affort.

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 6:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal

I've never understood this love affair Conservatives have with media celebrity stars. This is one reason the GOP isn't taken seriously about .. about anything!

-“Duck Dynasty’s” Phil Robertson to address Republican Leadership Conference-

When it comes to broadening its outreach, here's a wonderful choice to represent the party

The Republican Leadership Conference has announced the speakers for its New Orleans weekend shindig, which kicks off tomorrow:

Phil Robertson, patriarch of the Robertson family and star of the series “Duck Dynasty,” will address the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference, Thursday May 29th at 6pm. Also speaking on Thursday evening are RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Ron Johnson and Ben Sasse.

Other Speakers at the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference include Governor Rick Perry, Governor Phil Bryant, US Senators Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, & David Vitter; Donald Trump, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann and Allen West! The Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans has become one of the premier political events in the country.

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 7:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal

"By the way, where are Roger and Manthou?"

luvithere — May 28, 2014 at 2:23 p.m.

I don't think roger has posted here since you requested examples for his assertion that both parties are equally extreme.

(we all have our moments)

But roger, Drawing a line of reasoning (regarding a dispute) between the dangers and adverse effects the proposed Tesoro Oil Terminal would bring to the area, and equating it with the CRC transportation rationale, is a 'What The Hell?' moment in my mind. Can you go into some more detail?

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 8:13 a.m. ( | suggest removal

And ALL those things were there when they moved in. Not a leg to stand on.

Hawkman — May 29, 2014 at 6:43 a.m.

Too true, Hawk. But I really, really don't think anyone anticipated the increase in volatile cargo that the Bakken boom brings.

Caveat emptor: I would always be hesitant to park my home near any railroad tracks, no matter what the view. Has something to do with my hometown roots in industrial wasteland Northern Indiana: da Region, we like to call it.

manthou — May 29, 2014 at 8:22 a.m. ( | suggest removal

For what it's worth, I didn't advocate micromanaging area transportation needs, and I'm not advocating for a vote concerning the proposed oil terminal. We elect leaders to lead. If we don't like it, we vote them out.

The problem with voting on individual projects such as the CRC & Tesoro oil terminal, is that only a fraction of voters vote, and compound that with an off year election, only a fraction of those fraction vote. And from the fraction of the fractions, only another fraction has enough knowledge about a given issue to vote competently.

And from that fractionalized primordial voter soup, most who vote are old, conservative, and stingy with tax dollars that don't benefit them directly.

And our kids, who look to us for looking out for them, get screwed.

A vicious cycle. :)

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 9:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Apparently the 'Cult Of Lew' has gone further underground, seeking isolation from differing opinion. No more well spoken Berrigan's or thoughtful Decker's muddying his blogs content. No more 'screened' "demokrats" popping in with a different point of view. Any relevancy that was left has been removed. As any relevancy that existed, existed in the form of criticism.

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 9:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I mew it!

-Cat People Are Smarter Than Dog People, New Study Shows-

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 9:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — May 29, 2014 at 9:20 p.m.

Actually isn't what you think. Even I don't have direct access to his blog. I sent him an email and asked why...not hard for you to do if you have his email. He responded...and it was quite cordial as usual.

Remember nails...when one ASSumes, what that usually makes them...

(For everyone - don't bother asking me for his email. I respect his right to privacy.)


goldenoldie — May 30, 2014 at 11:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal

"[[[ Even I ]]]don't have direct access to his blog."

goldenoldie — Hmmmmm..aren't we special..hey..are you his wife? ;)

I don't care to have it. Your 'assumes' remark is a golden oldie for sure. And it appears to be exactly what I think, otherwise, why the change?

Quite the drama with this fabricated PCO controversy. Ridiculous stuff, but entertaining as hell!

Reading the well articulated comments from local republican leadership, in the C and other places, local republicans are really upping their game. It's no surprise the senior cantankerous religious curmudgeons of the old GOP guard have been pushed aside for new blood.

Your monthly freebies must have started. Anything to contribute outside of pointing a finger???

nailingit — May 30, 2014 at 1:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit 5/29 @ 9:20 p.m.

If access is denied, or by invitation only, guess that leaves only spectulation...

Was told the local annals of pco tricks and hints went viral, if the term 'viral' can mean more venues than one blog. Nice notoriety really, if the attention is kind. Maybe not so much if the heat got warmer because of the attention, after all it's an an election year. No dissension among the troops, and that sort of thing. Even the 'Political Beat', which never gets comments, received comments.

I never read Waters blog; too melodramatic and with no original ideas or solutions, but loads of scorn for anyone not like himself. I met him at a pary a few years ago, and was immediately put off by the intentional 'chumming the waters'. After he posted the photo of Monica Stonier and Julie Olson during the last election, with the implication Stonier was cheating by looking at Olson's papesr, I've not gone back other than if someone here links something, and mostly not even then. Let those who like his style, or think it's edifying, continue to do so. I do not.

jacjak — May 30, 2014 at 3:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak — May 30, 2014 at 3:03 p.m.

I agree, Lew seems to have a following of those that like to kiss his rosy red. I used to get into it with Lew on the FB side, he always got pissed at me and started calling me names. Between him and Robert Stevens, I suspect they were instrumental in getting me kicked off..

Hawkman — May 30, 2014 at 7:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal

This is a response to nails, hawk and jacjak.

Actually Hawk, he has a bigger following than you might think...and it's not all kiss ups as you'd like to believe. Some are there with differing opinions and don't hesitate to argue the point. I'll admit, I agreed with a lot of what he has to say, but I also disagree with a lot of what he has to say. Does that make me a kiss up? Hardly...but if you think that common courtesy is kissing up, well I'll leave that opinion on your hands.

And regarding the blog...jacjak started the 3:03 pm post with "Was told the local annals of pco tricks and hints went viral..."

If that's any hint, let me further entertain you with the #1 definition of "Viral:" Of the nature of, caused by, or relating to a virus or viruses. Does that give you a little hint??? Put it this way, folks. Lew puts stuff out on the table for all to see WITHOUT the financial backing or elbow rubbing of certain individuals not only in our county, but from across the country. His only intention is to inform the people as he sees it on a blog...a place he can freely express himself without having someone "Flag" him or have him kicked off their site.

As evidenced by certain comments on this forum regularly regarding Lew Waters' blog, there's a group that would rather silence his works than allow him to continue to break apart their political agenda. So just because he has increased security on his blog...that makes him someone who is trying to prevent freedom of expression? freedom of speech?

Seems to me, the Columbian, and I'm pretty sure 90% of other news sources have done their fair share of the very same thing you accuse Lew of doing.

Why is it you find his blog such a threat??? Finger pointing? No...just trying to understand why you are so hateful of the guy.

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 7:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Just one more comment here, then I'll leave it at that -

Lew's blog isn't the only site I visit other than the C's forum. Actually, it's one of several as well as discussion groups I have shared my free time outside the internet.

Never limit yourselves, folks. Share in discussion on other sites and in community discussion groups outside the cyber world, too (if you haven't already). Get involved! You might be surprised in what you learn beyond the realm of Columbianland.

Manthou has it and see what's out there. Manthou...I so hope you are enjoying your worldly travels, seeing the sights, sharing the culture, enjoying the tasty treats and splendor of every place you visit. Clark County's political headaches are such a small piece of the worldly pie, aren't they!

Enjoy our beautiful June weather, folks!

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 7:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 7:08 a.m.

Yes, I've read your posts to Lew and even though you might semi-disagree with him in the beginning, it always ends up with you trying to make nicey-nice with him so as not to ruffle his feathers too much. You look at him as someone who has a high standing in your society but in reality he's just an ex-mechanic with computer access that can turn a phrase with nothing to do. I'm not impressed.

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 8:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak — May 30, 2014 at 3:03 p.m.

"If access is denied, or by invitation only, guess that leaves only spectulation..."

Pretty solid speculation, given the days of pointed comments and accusations from his fellow conservatives leading up to this measure of isolation. Not to mention his profanity laced responses. He can't tolerate views that differ from his own, especially in his own "conservative" world.

"I never read Waters blog; too melodramatic and with no original ideas or solutions, but loads of scorn for anyone not like himself."

I've never read much of what he writes for the same reason. What I have read, is his take after the 2008 presidential election. One of the most mean spirited, scornful, bigoted and divisive writes I've ever read, about our new "demokrat homey" prez. Some folks go in for this I guess. At least he archives his absurdities.

I enjoy the comments section. Where else can you read someone making himself out to be a hero for filming Occupy Portland! You can't make this stuff up!! :))

Combine the lack of ideas/solutions with his awful rhetoric and novice style, It's hard to imagine why anyone takes this guy seriously. Anyone, except for needy hard line conservative establishment republicans, which brings me to ............

goldenoldie —

"As evidenced by certain comments on this forum regularly regarding Lew Waters' blog, there's a group that would rather silence his works than allow him to continue to break apart their political agenda."

I consider his blog to be filled with hilarity, and want more! Please show the "evidence".

"Seems to me, the Columbian, and I'm pretty sure 90% of other news sources have done their fair share of the very same thing you accuse Lew of doing."

But, but...:)) The Columbian doesn't do it, as they display their FB comments openly. Please tell me you didn't pull your 90% number out of your ... thin air, did you???

"Why is it you find his blog such a threat???"

:) Please provide a source or quotation as basis for such a silly question.

"...just trying to understand why you are so hateful of the guy."

Perhaps if you started with a less delusional baseline. The way the word "hate" is thrown around, it makes one wonder if some have ever experienced it.

"Lew's blog isn't the only site I visit other than the C's forum. Actually, it's one of several..."

Of that, I'm sure no one has any doubt.

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 12:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal

-America’s middle-class defeat: How Canada shamed the wealthiest nation on earth-

Want to understand what's causing the decay of the American dream? Take some lessons from our friends to the north

“If you want to see your name in lights, go to the United States,” he explained. “If you want a stable middle-class existence, go to Canada.”

This was all different than the extremes of opulence and destitution I was used to at home, but I didn’t really experience culture shock until I crossed back into the United States, on the tramp ferry from Kingston to Cape Vincent, N.Y. After weeks of driving through Canada’s orderly fishing ports and suburbanized metropolises, I was suddenly seeing … rural slums. Small towns blighted by abandoned gas stations. Dingy farmhouses with empty, eyeless windows. At the Erie County Fair, outside Buffalo, I witnessed a pageant of American poverty: a man swinging his lone leg between a pair of crutches, a phlegmy, smoky laugh gurgling from a mouth with intermittent teeth, a woman whose clothes were so packed with flesh she had to swing her shoulders robotically just to move forward.

I hadn’t noticed such poverty in Ontario. More significantly, I hadn’t noticed that I hadn’t noticed. For most of the summer, I’d been traveling through a country that tries to drag all its citizens as close to a middle-class lifestyle as possible. Southern Ontario is the least exotic place on Earth. What’s remarkable about a nation full of people with good teeth and summer cottages?

That’s why I wasn’t surprised by the Luxembourg Income Study’s announcement that Canada has surpassed the United States as the country with the most prosperous middle class. I assumed they’d always been ahead of us, or at least since the Guess Who hollered, “I don’t need your ghetto scenes.”

Read More @

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 12:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal

A leading republican spokesperson. Duck Dude.

-Phil Robertson’s advice for the GOP-

“Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson has a cure for the GOP.

“You want to turn the Republican party around, get godly,” Robertson told the Republican Leadership Conference on Thursday, according to coverage from The Times-Picayune.

The reality star, appearing at the party gathering in New Orleans, admitted that he was surprised to be chosen to speak at the event.

“I’m not a political person,” he said. “I guess the GOP may be more desperate than I thought to call somebody like me.”

Robertson’s speech focused on religion in politics, citing quotes from the Bible, referencing prayers written by John Adams and George Washington and reading religious legislation, such as a 1983 Senate and House resolution designating the year as the national year of the Bible.

Robertson, who caused controversy after making anti-gay remarks, related his religion to his beliefs on education, saying that “education is useless without the Bible,” and his morals on monogamy, preaching “it’s biblical, one man one woman for life.”

On the state of the nation, Robertson called the White House “evil and wicked” and “downright embarrassing.”

As for the next round of political leaders, Robertson offered his biggest qualification to turn the nation onto the right track.

“You can’t be right for America if you’re wrong with God,” he said.

Read more:

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 12:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal


FYI - 'viral' is also an internet term used to describe something that spreads through the net at a rapid pace, but thanks for the definition.

Can't speak for everyone, but I don't think there's anyone that posts here that has thought how many blogs you, or anyone else may read. I know I haven't. You did leave a post explaining to nailingit about ASSumptions, and that you had LW email and would not share it, or some such. The leap it takes to get to trying to limit his 'freedom of speech' and 'hateful' and 'silence his works', (whatever that means) from what was said here is seriously vast, but we each can only call em as we see em, I guess. And, it begs to be asked, are you trying to limit our speech? Are you 'hateful' to us? Because how I see it is nailingit, Hawk, and myself, expressed opinions on how we view Lew's blog, yet that is EXACTLY what Lew Waters does on his blog... express opinions on how he views things. And, the funny thing is, we'd probably not even mentioned it in the first place other than your reaction to nailingit letting the forum know his blog was now sacrosanct.

jacjak — May 31, 2014 at 1:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 12:51 p.m.

Sad when somebody like that becomes the featured speaker. But here is my question to him. As he thinks “You can’t be right for America if you’re wrong with God, " I want to know which one specifically he is talking about. :)

luvithere — May 31, 2014 at 5:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak — May 31, 2014 at 1:21 p.m.

I'm not disagreeing with your definition of viral, jacjak. I'm merely pointing out a hint that the term "viral" has more than one meaning and I focused on the meaning I shared. Nothing more, nothing less. And of course, I am not in any way, shape or form...trying to silence anyone. And no, I am not hateful of anyone on this forum. I wasn't singling any one person out. I was reacting to you and Hawkman, but it wasn't to single you out.

jacjak, have you ever had comments removed from the forum or on the FB side? I know I have as has hawk and others on here. The C chooses who can say what and now, they expect people to pay for online "subscription" rights. Great way to cut out the little guy. You know, the one with the least amount of rights.

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 8:19 a.m.

Nope, dead wrong Hawkman. He's just another voice in society...a voice who shouts out for rights of veterans; a voice who shouts even louder when he sees the fleecing of our nation and corruption in our government.

Do I put him on a pedestal? You might think so and that's your prerogative to think what you may, but he's right at our level...puts one foot in front of the other (so to speak) and eats/sleeps/breathes just like the rest of us. He just plays a different tune from you AND me. It would suck BIG time if everyone thought and made decisions exactly the same. Nobody knows who is always right. There's always someone out there who disagrees with anything we say.

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 5:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal

luvithere — May 31, 2014 at 5:04 p.m.

In my mind, he's no different than those radicals in the middle East.

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 5:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 5:34 p.m.


Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 5:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — May 30, 2014 at 1:07 p.m.

No, I am not his wife. Never met the guy face to face. Probably never will. I respect the rights to privacy.

and at 12:28 p.m.
"""Please tell me you didn't pull your 90% number out of your ... thin air, did you???"""

I should have been more accurate, nails. Make that 100%..8P

There's a reason why news sites have monitors...or should I say "Babysitters." Heck, even Hawkman was accusing Lew along with the other guy of having him kicked off of the C.

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 5:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 5:40 p.m.

Figuratively speaking Hawk. We are all different minds...different souls. Would you really want to have everyone be your clone? That would be awfully redundant...and quite scary, too...8)))

goldenoldie — May 31, 2014 at 5:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Goldie - I'm disappointed that Lew has gone and made his blog "by invitation only." If his goal is to educate people on what "true conservatism" is, then he needs to accept the occasional heat he's going to get from the Paulistas and others.

roger — May 31, 2014 at 8:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Anyone--------Seriously---------What The Hell Kind Of Kool-Aid Is Lew Serving Up To His Followers?


goldenoldie —

Thank our most holy lord the Jim Jones church is gone. Or I'd be flying to Ghana to rescue your dear soul.

My God!

The dreaded Lewcult!

Will Lew mentor them into the dangerous use of a handycam? Teach them to respond with red herrings and vulgarities to questions he either doesn't understand, or doesn't know the answers to? To whine incessantly for years about three subjects, The Columbian, Demokrats, and the Columbian..........

Will 'They' start going door to door for recruitment?

Thank God there's only four or five of them.

All in good humor goldenoldie.

But seriously.....

What the hell.........

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 8:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Fascinating article. Big brother's bromance with faces.

-N.S.A. Collecting Millions of Faces From Web Images-

The spy agency’s reliance on facial recognition technology has grown significantly over the last four years as the agency has turned to new software to exploit the flood of images included in emails, text messages, social media, videoconferences and other communications, the N.S.A. documents reveal. Agency officials believe that technological advances could revolutionize the way that the N.S.A. finds intelligence targets around the world, the documents show. The agency’s ambitions for this highly sensitive ability and the scale of its effort have not previously been disclosed.

The agency intercepts “millions of images per day” — including about 55,000 “facial recognition quality images” — which translate into “tremendous untapped potential,” according to 2011 documents obtained from the former agency contractor Edward J. Snowden. While once focused on written and oral communications, the N.S.A. now considers facial images, fingerprints and other identifiers just as important to its mission of tracking suspected terrorists and other intelligence targets, the documents show.


She added that the N.S.A. did not have access to photographs in state databases of driver’s licenses or to passport photos of Americans, while declining to say whether the agency had access to the State Department database of photos of foreign visa applicants. She also declined to say whether the N.S.A. collected facial imagery of Americans from Facebook and other social media through means other than communications intercepts.


The N.S.A. achieved a technical breakthrough in 2010 when analysts first matched images collected separately in two databases — one in a huge N.S.A. database code-named Pinwale, and another in the government’s main terrorist watch list database, known as Tide — according to N.S.A. documents. That ability to cross-reference images has led to an explosion of analytical uses inside the agency. The agency has created teams of “identity intelligence” analysts who work to combine the facial images with other records about individuals to develop comprehensive portraits of intelligence targets.

The agency has developed sophisticated ways to integrate facial recognition programs with a wide range of other databases. It intercepts video teleconferences to obtain facial imagery, gathers airline passenger data and collects photographs from national identity card databases created by foreign countries, the documents show. They also note that the N.S.A. was attempting to gain access to such databases in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Read More @

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 9:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal

roger — May 31, 2014 at 8:07 p.m.

Hey Rog, where you been?

Did you get an invite from ol Lew? Nah, me neither. Nail's broken hearted over the whole thing and Goldie is waiting at home praying for hers. Pretty sure JJ and Luv don't care.

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 10:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 10:01 p.m.

"Nail's broken hearted over the whole thing..."


Here I sit all broken hearted.

Tried to ....

I'm reminded of something I've read...

...while sitting on the Loo!

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 10:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal

roger — May 31, 2014 at 8:07 p.m.
I'm a bit disappointed myself, but I'm not going to fret over it. Things happen. Changes happen.

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 10:41 p.m.
Don't get much for a dime these days, eh???

and - at 8:40 p.m.
All in fun, nails...all in fun. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It's in my nature. BTW, I don't like Kool-Aid; politically or beverage-wise...8))

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 10:01 p.m.
I'm just laughing at the picture you paint of me. Way out into left field, hawkster...WAY out! I actually DID receive an invite, but I've declined. The picture I paint of'd be annoyed, but it's all in fun. Thanks for the laughs, though.

goldenoldie — June 1, 2014 at 4:56 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Here is Lew Waters' email:
Many people have it. He doesn't try to hide it.

It is fascinating watching the hatred go inward, as Republicans eat their own in an attempt to maintain political dominance.

How do you all think this is going to impact the next election? Split the Republican vote?

I noticed that Chris Clifford, Benton's crony hire at Clark County DES, is finally feeling his oats and speaking up on the FB comments for Press Talk. What took him so long? He must have passed his 3 month evaluation from his buddy with flying colors and is feeling more secure in his job. I find it so funny that he is criticizing Kelly Parker's interview, when she demonstrated what non-crony honesty looks like. We're gonna see more of this Clifford guy as Clark County continues its downward spiral.

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 7:19 a.m. ( | suggest removal

"I actually DID receive an invite, but I've declined."

Given your wild groupie like description @ May 31, 2014 at 5:34 p.m., it begs the question...why?

What sacrifice does he now require from his faithful for a Loocult blessing?

Blood? Tithing? DNA sample? Lose a finger? Sacrifice your firstborn? Kill an innocent? Instructed to haze gay republicans? Forced to chug Coors Light? Watch an Adam Sandler movie?

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 7:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — May 31, 2014 at 9:47 p.m.

I read the NSA article too. One of the reasons I do like, subscribe, and pay for access to different newspapers and magazines is because of the comments. They give a larger gadge of attitudes than the article or opinion piece alone, and give me aspects to any given subject I may have not come to one my own. Not sure if it's copacetic to copy and paste, but I especially agree with this comment from someone in Athens, Alabama in response to the NYT article you linked.

Ken H. Athens, Alabama 2 hours ago
"Data lives forever, is loyal to no master, and grows like a cancer. Whether data on hundreds of millions of individuals was gathered legally or illegally, or by our government or another government, is irrelevant. It moves and finds new uses and new places to reside. If it is capable of identifying the associates of known terrorists today, then it will be equally capable of finding the members of a political party or protest movement or religious denomination tomorrow.

Criminal activity is not some universally recognized set of behaviors: it is whatever a government says it is. In some countries it is homosexuality, in some it is belonging to a particular religion, and in others it is driving a car if one is a woman. Our privacy laws protect both criminals and non-criminals precisely because any exercise of individual freedom could at some time and in some place be defined as criminal.

Sadly, those wonderful protections against an invasive government now are meaningless. Data found can never be retrieved, and data kept by anyone for any purpose now can be found. Our only possible defense is to guard zealously what is defined as criminal, and under what circumstances a person can be detained or punished as a threat to security. If we cannot limit the existence of data, then we must limit its use.

This is not a partisan or national issue. It either threatens every one of us now, or could in the future."

jacjak — June 1, 2014 at 7:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak — Some really good points in your Bama' comment. People might want to think twice/three times before putting our mugs on display. Thinking back 20-30 years ago, who would have thought this was possible.

[captcha]- the demnet

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 8:22 a.m. ( | suggest removal

"How do you all think this is going to impact the next election? Split the Republican vote?"

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 7:19 a.m.

I think it will make a difference, both national and local.

It'd be wild if the Vick-Ley 18th race split the vote and Briggs got in the back door. Some tough divisions locally that can only help Dems. Some on either conservative side might not show up for their party, and not vote out of spite or for differing ideologies.

I expect LeyClaws to sharpen as November draws nigh.

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 8:52 a.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 7:42 a.m.

lol, nails. You crack me up. My reason as to why I declined Lew's offer...

Not enough hours in the day to accomplish what I set out to do. No other reason. Yeah, I've had a couple of days this weekend where I can BS with you all, but I guess everyone needs a break from their regular routine once in awhile. I can't be bothered with sites who play the game of reduction of access to all, no matter what the reason (even the C, although I am one who takes advantage of freebies when I can...8-]...). My only intention by bringing it up in the first place was because I read a couple of statements here on the forum which in my opinion were leaning in a direction away from the truth (and I did the same on Lew's site, you have pointed out). These are after all, a collective forum of opinions, right??? We're living in a dog-EAT-dog world and in the realm of politics...the mudslinging is taking on a new transition; one I don't care to involve myself. If you noticed...I didn't make comments in every article that Lew wrote; only ones I was interested in making a statement. Other writes on Lew's site and even here in the basement...I either shook my head wondering or found interesting, ridiculous or hilarious but it wasn't enough for me to comment, so I shut off the internet and went about my daily routine away from the cyber world as I am about to do after this comment.

Also...I'd mentioned that I share my notes on other blogs as well...even those have slacked off as they have here over the past few months. It wasn't with the intent to receive approval or argument from anyone. I'd rather be pro-active rather than sedentary these days if you get my drift.

It was mentioned that I might be hateful or might be trying to silence others. If that were so then why would I do that when I forever encourage others to speak their mind??? I actually enjoy the forum. Good discussion...even if I agree or disagree. Thanks to the C's new rules, I have more time for my goals in life...8)

goldenoldie — June 1, 2014 at 9:02 a.m. ( | suggest removal

manthou, I see you posted Lew's email. It was my choice not to publicly display his email even if he did publish it on his blog. I didn't have his permission, so I respected that fact.

goldenoldie — June 1, 2014 at 9:04 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Best line I ever heard=

"We're living in a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underpants."


goldenoldie — June 1, 2014 at 4:56 a.m.

Actually the picture I paint of you is mostly black and white. Very little grey in your views.

Hawkman — June 1, 2014 at 9:40 a.m. ( | suggest removal

Anyone else following the release of a US soldier in exchange for 5 of our worst enemies?

My first and second thought is, 'what the hell is Obama thinking?'

Even without Bergdahl's suspect behavior, this decision does not bode well with national security interests. Let alone the victim's families these terrorists are responsible for taking.

Hopefully his debriefing will be thorough.

The last thing we need is a true to life 'Homeland' show on U.S. soil.

-Bowe Bergdahl, U.S. soldier held by Taliban, was "ashamed to be American," emails show-

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 12:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal

goldie: However did we all manage on here without your slapping us upside the noggins every so often? Shaming us works the best. Thank you for it. BTW, subscribe to the C, support your local newspaper, and you can be this Forum monitor by default. Promise. You are so much better alone than all of us reprobates combined. :)

nailingit: There are splits in the conservative vote coming on against the Dems Sharon Wylie, Jim Moeller, Mike Briggs. More power to these challengers, but they will spend more time discrediting each other than they will their shared Democratic target.

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 12:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit: My initial question on Bowe Burgdahl: was he declining from a mental illness during his service, before his capture/defection? So many questions, but I wish him health and healing. I also hope his family can avoid the inevitable spotlight.

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 1:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit @ 12:45 p.m.

Saw the headlines about Burgdahl's release yesterday, and vaguely remember other articles over the years. Looked this one up, but still not sure it's the one that had my radar give a blip back then, only that something seemed a bit 'off'. But, they say his health is bad, so glad he's coming home. Just like Snowden, I'd not take my eyes off either of them, I suppose, and will wait for what transpires...

jacjak — June 1, 2014 at 1:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 1:16 p.m./jacjak — June 1, 2014 at 1:31 p.m.

So far, it seems to be a case of differing ideology rather than a form of mental illness. If he is mentally ill or misunderstood, I wish him the the best as well as his family.

But if he simply left his post to side with the enemy, giving them solid intel to kill American troops and civillians, I hope we prosecute with extreme prejudice.

Obama's getting soft. A year ago he would have taken out the whole damn province with a drone strike :)

“In the early-morning hours of June 30th, according to soldiers in the unit, Bowe approached his team leader not long after he got off guard duty and asked his superior a simple question: If I were to leave the base, would it cause problems if I took my sensitive equipment?

“Yes, his team leader responded – if you took your rifle and night-vision goggles, that would cause problems.

“Bowe returned to his barracks, a roughly built bunker of plywood and sandbags. He gathered up water, a knife, his digital camera and his diary. Then he slipped off the outpost.”

When his absence was discovered, Bergdahl was listed as “DUSTWUN” – Duty Status: Whereabouts Unknown.

Search parties were sent out. The search included drone aircraft as well as F-18 and F-15 fighter jets.

Above CS quotes from RS. For an in depth look-

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 1:54 p.m. ( | suggest removal

manthou @ 12:58 p.m.

Don't know a thing about Scott Dalesandro, who is running against Wiley, other than what was in the article today, but his, indepentant, moderate, middle of the road, average guy has a off-sounding ring to it. If he's really only running because he's " tired of the acrimony between politicians", he's not been paying attention to Wiley. Her efforts in the 'heros for hire' program Clark College has been trying to get off the ground says much to measure a guy who talks about affordable education for all as one of his 'planks', but gives nothing on how that'd be done or funded.

Also, I found his comment about government 'waste and spend' telling, as I do believe that is the main mantra of the Tea Party. Plus, I just can't agree on his "the left is so far to the left, they have forgotten the working man", (see Wiley reference above. If trying to fast-track returning soldiers into trucking jobs is not a concern for 'the working man', I don't know what is). Or, he could have at least checked out the list of bills Wiley has sponsored.

If he wanted to run on the 'against acrimony' ticket, he should have run against Crain.

jacjak — June 1, 2014 at 2:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hi guys,
regarding soldier Burkdahl. Honestly, rumors flying like this is the National Enquirer. Why don't we wait until we hear details? I heard he went to latrine and got snatched. Either way, honestly, I am glad he is back and I support that we got him. Naturally, the GOP is deadly set against this as Obama is at fault again. Bla bla bla. It drizzled yesterday and the sun didn't come out until the afternoon, what was the guy thinking.

Let's first wait and see. And I know Nails was joking about drone strikes on the whole darn province, but I really disagree. Gitmo is a national disgrace, should never have happened. But getting these 5 people over to Quatar, whatever. After so many years at Gitmo, I doubt they are able to do much anyway. They got to be broken human beings. What are we supposed to do? Bomb it all?

jacjak. You stated the right thing there. Smacks of tea party alright. Every time I hear about gov waste and spending, I wonder why they want to cut it all except the military. I call that voting against your own personal interest.

I sound disjointed I am sure. Taking a five minute break from working on a large document for work. So much for a Sunday.

luvithere — June 1, 2014 at 2:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal

jacjak: I evaluate the sound bites used by candidates, too. It is a type of shorthand signal to gather a base of low-information voters quickly. Many candidates are trying to distance themselves from the Republican Party by claiming to be Independent, but their words say otherwise. Some words and phrases that I'd like permanently banned from right-leaning candidates: tax and spend; boondoggle; elitist; will of the people. In Clark County specifically: git 'er done; smarter.

Any others?

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 3:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal

manthou — Any others?

Liberty. The word has been perverted more often than not since 2009.

Illegal Aliens. (so when people become citizens, do we call them 'Legal Aliens'?)

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 3:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal

"But getting these 5 people over to Quatar, whatever. After so many years at Gitmo, I doubt they are able to do much anyway."

luvithere — June 1, 2014 at 2:52 p.m.

These 5 worst of the worst will be heralded as living martyrs and hero's. You can bet the house they will be playing key roles in years to come. It's good for us as Americans to remember luvit, there are people whose sole mission in life is to destroy U.S. troops and this country. These terrorists will rise in the ranks.

John McCain's partisanship this morning was absurd. Unfortunately his rhetoric mitigates the severity of this incident. How this guy survived the Keating 5 scandal and went on to become the GOP's Prez candidate is beyond me. Then with Sarah on the ticket.....I'm digressing. A blast from the past.

Think of how many Americans regard McCain. Considering he had a starring role in NVC propaganda films and radio, not to mention he was a crappy pilot, many regard him as some kind of macho foreign policy expert.

A great hit piece on McCain if anyone is interested. If anything doesn't pass the smell test let me know. Sure don't want to enter NQ territory! :)

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 4:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal

nailingit: Good choices. I'd add "illegals" to the family, as the abused shortened version.

luvithere: It is OK to ponder the possible mental health contributions that may have influenced this young man's behavior. It is the elephant in many of our rooms right now. There are many contributing factors, I am sure.

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 4:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal

goldenoldie — One last word (this hour) concerning the LW debacle.

He was in a war of words, his heartfelt beliefs on the line...and he retreated. He ran. As fast as he could. A blogger's AWOL.

Maybe he'll start blogging about Canada. :)

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 4:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Goldie - Thanks. I just went and asked Lew. He told me which e-mail account to send to, and he'll grant access. I gather there's also an explanation for the current blocking, and that he'll reopen the page when ready.

I don't know why you don't send off to ask. It's a legitimate page with good discussions from a conservative viewpoint. We've gotten to the state of affairs we're in because no one wants to hear from the opposite side - just repeat the same arguments ad nauseam among like minded individuals.

roger — June 1, 2014 at 5:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal

From the AP article in today's paper -- "Hagel was met with silence when he told troops in a Bagram hangar: "This is a happy day. We got one of our own back." It was unclear whether the absence of cheers and applause came from a reluctance to display emotion in front of the Pentagon chief or from any doubts among the troops about Bergdahl."

It's pretty damned clear to me what the soldiers think of Bergdahl. If they agreed with this prisoner exchange, there would be no hesitation on their part with expressing approval, no matter how exalted the person delivering the message. My guess is that they were told ahead of time, and cautioned by the chain of command to remain on their most professional behavior - hence the silence.

Wonderful. I just got a Captcha that requires good color vision to read the response. Time to hit refresh.

roger — June 1, 2014 at 5:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal

boy, is that word ever used these days....

luvithere — June 1, 2014 at 5:32 p.m. ( | suggest removal

manthou — June 1, 2014 at 4:29 p.m.
You are, of course, correct. I do not know, and neither does anybody else here, what went through this man's mind. I am just cautious as it seems to me that a big faction is making the point that he was, maybe, "going over." I have no idea. I am keeping an open mind. I am not condemning this guy yet.

luvithere — June 1, 2014 at 5:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal

Hawkman — May 31, 2014 at 10:01 p.m.

We were making our move to the Edith Green Federal Building; just finished this afternoon. You taxpayers would be outraged to hear the overtime pay I'm going to get for this.

We had a great moving company - they're called FIRST, Inc. They're an office furniture installation company out of P'Town. If any of your building's prospective tenants are looking, they can't go wrong with these guys.

roger — June 1, 2014 at 5:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal

roger — June 1, 2014 at 5:36 p.m.

Yes, but are they as expensive as you??? LOL

Seems odd that when we actually have an ARMY with trucks and able bodied men that they would have to hire a moving company. But what do I know. Couldn't they call the corps of engineers or something?

Hawkman — June 1, 2014 at 6:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal

We've gotten to the state of affairs we're in because no one wants to hear from the opposite side - just repeat the same arguments ad nauseam among like minded individuals.

roger — June 1, 2014 at 5:03 p.m

No true words have been spoken!

Those that complain about LW and his opinion/view points, his blog, yet they keep going back and reading it. Why? If it is like nailingit has stated "for entertainment", then why do you complain? Issues with mental competency are in question when one continues to repeat the samething over and over, then complain.... it one just like to complain about anything and everything that doesn't "fit the mold" of their indoctrination?

jasonb — June 1, 2014 at 7:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal


I think we got into this "state of affairs", whatever that might mean, because of an ill informed voting block, poor leadership, and counterproductive policy making. But that's me.

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 7:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I would never complain about Lew, or his opinions. I may, at some times point out how wrong they might be, but I would never tell him that he isn't entitled to them. That is my right as it is his to be grossly misinformed.

Hawkman — June 1, 2014 at 8:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal

jasonb — June 1, 2014 at 7:28 p.m.

I have to defend roger about this.

"If it is like nailingit has stated "for entertainment", then why do you complain?"

roger's only complaint concerning Lew, that I know of, is evident at May 31, 2014 at 8:07 p.m., concerns Lew retreating to an 'invite only' blog. As a matter of fact, unlike some of us, roger seems to extract some sort of useable information from his writes, and not just from an entertainment standpoint.

I believe your concerns about his mental competency are misplaced.



Hawkman — June 1, 2014 at 8:21 p.m.

I can't recall anyone complaining about Lew's opinions...with the exception of local republican leadership of course.

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 8:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal

You taxpayers would be outraged to hear the overtime pay I'm going to get for this.
roger — June 1, 2014 at 5:36 p.m.

Betcha an after-tax nickel that you're one of us.

jacjak — June 1, 2014 at 9:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal

I've ragged on Greg Jayne's columns more than once, and feel it's only fair to compliment him when he gets it right. A really good column today.

Maybe he's found his niche. A roaming reporter. A trip to Olympia during session would be interesting.

Jayne does have an earthy appeal with his writing style. Many times boring and muddied. But nevertheless, genuine.

nailingit — June 1, 2014 at 11:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal

eh hmm, nailingit, you may want to read my post again.

roger wasn't the one my comment was direct at. In fact I agreed with roger.

" ill informed voting block, poor leadership, and counterproductive policy making."

Ill informed voters? Hmm right to a point on that one, blame the media for that one with telling half truths, or none at all, presenting twisted doctored clips to blantant lies. Cover ups, oh list goes on...
Voters are so busy with jobs, kids etc they don't/can't find the time to really check into the real truth so they eat up what the media feeds them.

"poorleadership" nailed it (no pun intended)

"counterproductive policy " been going on since Bush sr. was in office.

jasonb — June 2, 2014 at 12:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal

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