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Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Opportunity lost, again

Once again, Vancouver has lost a gem in our community in the closing of the Arts Equity Onstage theater. I find myself dismayed by the total apathy by the Southwest Washington citizens toward the arts of our town.

I have great admiration for Val Ogden’s efforts toward a community arts center. However, in the Feb. 26 story “Curtain falls on Arts Equity theater,” I found her idea of tepid art completely lacking in the understanding of the true nature of artistic expression.

I look around at other communities such as Yakima, Walla Walla, Camas, or Old Town in Tacoma. They all have found ways to make the arts an integral and defining part of their communities. Art has been intertwined in culture since humans lived in caves. Yet Vancouver refuses to acknowledge or support such treasures. This surely is a great loss to us all.

Anne John
Vancouver 

Judge not

I am writing in response to Jim McGuire’s Feb. 29 letter, “No ‘closet’ necessary,” where he stated, “I neither fear nor hate homosexuals. I do, however, disagree with their lifestyle choice.” I wish to express my own take on this subject.

When you say that you do not hate or fear someone, yet in your heart you do not wish the best for that person, you are masking your true feelings. When you act out of judgment and not out of love, you are not following the universal laws of God.

Judge not each other. Judge not yourselves. Before you pluck the beam out of another’s eye, pluck it out of yours. Look in the mirror. What is it that they are reflecting back at you while you stand in judgment of others?

We are all “one.” Love each other with all your heart. This is the message that Jesus came to deliver to the world. Stand in truth.

Danny Cole
Vancouver

Opposition misplaced

As a Washington resident, I am disappointed that Boeing did not win the tanker contract, reported March 1: “Boeing loses Air Force contract.” However, I am even more disappointed in the poor reaction from so many in both parties.

Northrop Grumman is an American company with a long history of supplying military aircraft prior to the merger in 1994. While some of the proposed tanker will be built in foreign countries, last I heard Alabama is still part of the United States.

The outrage expressed over the connection to Airbus while Boeing’s heavy use of China for parts goes ignored just astonishes me. China is currently undergoing major military buildups, according to our media. Why is there no outrage expressed over Boeing’s “outsourcing” of jobs to China?

I would prefer the contract be in Washington, but feel opposition to the awarded contract should be based upon facts, not hysteria.

Lew Waters
Vancouver

Dividends pay back
It’s time journalists get the gasoline story straight. We are regaled by Annette Fuentes’ Feb. 19 guest opinion, “As economy tanks, oil firms head straight to bank,”— beating the drum against Big Oil. She believes Exxon Mobil should renegotiate oil leases signed when oil was $10 a barrel. These leases, according to Fuentes, add $12 billion profit to Exxon or about 30 percent of their total profits. Her implication is that the “fat cats” who own Exxon Mobil are bilking the public. But who actually owns Exxon Mobil? … It’s you and me.

The majority of Exxon Mobil is owned by mutual funds and pension funds. Exxon Mobil’s largest shareholders are mutual funds Fidelity, Vanguard; state college funds; and pension plan managers for corporations, state governments, unions, etc. Fuentes is advocating removing money from our retirement funds and college savings accounts to give it back to the federal government. We should look at how well the federal and state governments have done with the 47 cents a gallon they receive. What have we gotten? Subsidies for Amtrak, museums at Woodstock, bridges to nowhere, etc. Are these funds being well used? At least with Exxon Mobil, we get the dividends in our 401(k) and pension plans.

Joe Keller
Camas

Voters left in the dark

I continue to hear how young adults like me are not interested in government, voting, or participating in the electoral process. As a
16-year-old, I will tell you why.

On Feb. 27, the Columbian ran a story, “County to stay mum on results of $9,825 look at division woes.” Once again, not unlike the recent sales of downtown property to developers for under-market value, thus incurring a loss in the neighborhood of $400,000, the local government now wishes to keep reports of possible corruption in the building safety division secret by utilizing a questionable loophole in the law.

Why would anyone, including those of us who will be of voting age soon, want to participate in a tainted process?

If government is not transparent, then the laws should be changed to force it to be.

Once again, local government is acting like we still live in the wild West where deals are made in the back rooms and the constituents are left in the dark. When will the government in this area grow up and come into the new millennium?

Carl Williams
Vancouver

Timing is not dependable

As a disabled senior, I have on many occasions used C-Van. The rates are reasonable and the drivers are courteous. However, C-Van has some serious problems to overcome before I would consider it a truly dependable service.

I have on several occasions made an appointment in advance for a pickup and delivery to a given address, and on the day before my appointment the C-Van office notified me of a change in time for either pickup or the return trip. There have been times when this would entail as much as an additional 90- to 100-minute ride on the bus just to a destination which may only be a few miles away.

C-Van’s policy is that you cannot phone its office unless your bus has not arrived to pick you up for 30 minutes past the due time. Many times the arrival times are 20 to 25 minutes late, but you cannot call. It is also a policy to give clients marks against their records if they cancel the day of the appointment, yet it is OK for C-Van to change your appointment times late in the afternoon the day before. It is a good service but needs some revamping to make it better.

Sandra Miller
Vancouver

Hire older teachers as well

As a local taxpayer and consistent voter for local operating levies, I was fascinated with Lee Goeke’s description of the Vancouver Public Schools’ hiring practices in the March 2 story, “It’s tough to keep a teacher these days.”

On the surface, his rationale for hiring extremely young beginning teachers makes sense — that as a group, the 22- to 26-year-olds are caring, idealistic, and interested in making a difference in the world rather than achieving other kinds of success and money.

I wonder, though, why those young teachers must all come from far away. At the same time that we are paying for recruiting trips to Illinois, excellent new teachers from our community seem to have less chance of being hired in Vancouver. How many new teachers come from WSU Vancouver? How many come from other local universities?

What is behind the apparent preference for candidates with no relationship to the local community, and no knowledge of the local culture?

Why is the focus on hiring people in their early 20s?

I know several second-career teachers who moved into education for exactly the reasons Goeke cites: love for children and the desire to serve. They were not hired in Vancouver, so neighboring districts benefit from their professional commitment and skill.

Bernice Burgess
Vancouver

1. Comment by Penny Schinke - March 11, 2008 @ 02:44 AM
Lew Waters...you REALLY need to jump on your union/s. They are being bought and sold out from under you. NAFTA was approved by Bill Clinton and seconded by George Bush...BOTH are negligent, conspiratorial Americans who sold you, and many other working class people, out. Our unions have fought so hard for the pay, benefits and pensions of the American worker. But we have been undercut by the cheap, and often, inadequate and bad product that the slave labor of the Chinese, Indian, El Salvadorean, Viet Namese, et al provide. Their workmanship is obviously inadequate. I recently bought 18 pairs of underwear at Target. Only 7 pairs were useful for me...each package of six found major differences in general form and fit, but because they are packaged in a plastic package of six panties, the customer has to rely on the manufacturers to keep the product the same. Sadly, they are incompetent. Hanes has sold out their American customers, as have so many companies that "used to be secure, and gave us uniform products". Our government has sold out our unions, our workers and our products. NO AVAILABLE MOTOR VEHICLE CAN BE HONESTLY CALLED "AN AMERICAN-MADE CAR". That is pitiful at best, monstrous all around. It's a disgrace that needs to be rectivied for our own self worth.

2. Comment by Ace High - March 11, 2008 @ 08:02 AM
Thanks for the insight Joe Keller.

Now I feel better about high gas prices. If I had any extra money I sure would start investing it in Exxon Mobile stock but all of my extra money is going into my gas tank, grocery bill and everything else that high oil prices affect.

3. Comment by John Edwards - March 11, 2008 @ 10:47 AM
Bernice, the number one reason to hire "younger teachers" is they're cheaper. You left that out.

4. Comment by Larry Little - March 11, 2008 @ 12:21 PM
The Republicans are screaming like banshees for the impeachment of Spitzer for SEX and completely ignore Mukasey's refusal to follow the law by protecting the president's crime wave abetted by Harriet Meirs and Bolton, and gives a shrug of their shoulders to the lies of Bush and Cheney used to start a three trillion dollar war, and didn't say a word about impeachment for Senator Vitter or Larry Craig who keep their obstruction votes going. The thing about Spitzer's capture, as it were is the very offensive and outrageous wire tapping Bush was using "only for terrorists only" is being used as a tool to entrap Democrats and about 300 million Americans is another lie we are hearing. The question everyone has is: How many are not caught and who are they?

5. Comment by John Edwards - March 11, 2008 @ 03:08 PM
6 YEARS of hypocrisy by Larry's Hero.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112008/news/regionalnews/spitzer_has_used_hookers_for_6_years__so_101444.htm

You gotta love it. Spitzer putting people in prison for doing EXACTLY the same thing he was doing.

Larry, since you're by far THE biggest hypocrite posting today, tell us... don't things like that trouble even you?

6. Comment by Larry Little - March 11, 2008 @ 05:15 PM
DANNY COLE!

I welcome your commentary regarding closet homophobia. I too thought; “I do not fear or hate” response was a statement that says the subconscious hidden reality reveals a reaction that borders on significant disrespect. The sexual life style of consenting adults should be nobody’s business just like “married in church” consenting adults’ sexual behavior should be nobody’s business. Abstinence education which is singularly a religious creation is totally useless in trying to control somebody’s hormones and is especially egregious when written by “sneak one in now and then” celibates, Senator Larry Craig or Senator Vitter. The sexual behavior of consenting adults should not be targeted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation when the more important criminal behavior of the Bush administration leading to the firing of Democratic attorneys who were targeted because they refused to overlook Republican crimes are in much greater need of wire-tapping that Bush only uses for terrorist activity.

7. Comment by Terry McA - March 11, 2008 @ 05:18 PM
John Edwards, you have totally ignored the text of Larry's message. Haven't you. Typical.

8. Comment by J. Miller - March 11, 2008 @ 05:26 PM
At least with Exxon Mobil, we get the dividends in our 401(k) and pension plans.

I guess this means our pensions will go belly up:

Gasoline prices, new services cited for 12.5% increase in Sound Transit ridership in 2007

Seattle-area commuters turned to mass transit in record numbers in 2007, boosting local ridership well above the national average, according to a study released Monday.

Sound Transit saw ridership increase 12.5 percent in 2007, compared with a national increase of about 2 percent...

Riders, pushed by rising gas prices and new services, took about 1.5 million more trips on express buses and commuter trains operated by Sound Transit.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/transportation/354495_sound11.html

9. Comment by Rufus O'Banyon - March 11, 2008 @ 05:40 PM
Anne John -

Sad, I agree, Vancouver sold culture and civility for fireworks and Jack Ass entertainment mentality; hard to have both. Now, if the Arts Equity Theater hosted the occasional wrestle-mania accompanied by chicks in bikinis with a firework display finish then it's future would be sound and secure. Anne, move to Portland if you want culture; ole Rufus just wants simple minded, cheap thrills, cracked knee caps, drug abuse and never ending stupidity!! Viva Vancouver!!

10. Comment by J. Miller - March 11, 2008 @ 05:51 PM
Mr. Keller,

Exxon Mobil CEO Lee Raymond's retirement package -- $400 MILLION -- is one of the largest in history.

He'd have a good belly laugh at your pension.

11. Comment by Rufus O'Banyon - March 11, 2008 @ 05:52 PM
Oh Yeah, Spitzer is my hero!! Tough guys like chicks, simple really. And, if you believe the likes of Danny Cole, lets not pluck the beam from his eye but bask in the glory of his heterosexual accomplishments. Heck, maybe he was at a macho wrestling match and saw one too many barely clad nubile ring walkers and said, "dude, I gotta get me one of those cause it must be OK since its flaunted ALL THE FREAKING TIME, EVERYWHERE!!"

12. Comment by John Edwards - March 11, 2008 @ 08:47 PM
Oh... 'bout as much as you and Lare Bear ignore mine.... speaking of hypocrites.

Thank for asking.

13. Comment by Steve Hargen - March 11, 2008 @ 10:03 PM
J. Miller, Let's not forget some of the facts about transit. Seattle Metro transit had 102 million riders in 2000 and 103 million in 2006. Hardly a ridership boom; especially when you look at all the money that has been spent to increase the network.

Maybe ridership in 2007 was up due to the I-5 repaving/closure of the freeway?

In order to compare how successful transit is compared to auto you must know how many more/less miles were commuted by auto. What if auto usage increased more than transit?

14. Comment by Bender Bending R. - March 11, 2008 @ 10:19 PM
J. Miller,

Sound Transit already admitted that a large part of the increase was due to the I-5 repaving. Are you having trouble with honesty again?

15. Comment by david evans - March 12, 2008 @ 12:42 AM
"But who actually owns Exxon Mobil? … It’s you and me." "....At least with Exxon Mobil, we get the dividends in our 401(k) and pension plans."

So, if stock investments in oil companies are reaping record profits for shareholders, no one should mind paying $4.00/gallon for gasoline and for the inflationary costs (fuel, (truck, barge, ship, train airplane and farm equipment), fertilizer, plastics, asphault and building materials) associated with oil prices.

So, why is almost everyone upset? It should balance out, RIGHT?

Thanks for clearing that up, Joe Keller.

Oh...One other thing. MANY OF US HAVE NO 401Ks OR PENSION PLANS. Some of us don't even have jobs.

But that's ok.

16. Comment by david evans - March 12, 2008 @ 12:54 AM
Carl Williams wrote an excellent piece on corruption in government.

Astute observation, Carl.

"Why would anyone, including those of us who will be of voting age soon, want to participate in a tainted process?"

We should want to participate so that we may change it.

It is your duty to observe, question political authority and vote your conscience to make change for good when necessary.

17. Comment by Bender Bending R. - March 12, 2008 @ 01:20 AM
david evans,

'Oh...One other thing. MANY OF US HAVE NO 401Ks OR PENSION PLANS. Some of us don't even have jobs.'

Then get off you lazy butt and take responsibility for your life and stop sucking off the Gov't. Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency for others.

18. Comment by david evans - March 12, 2008 @ 01:34 PM
Bender writes: "Then get off you lazy butt and take responsibility for your life and stop sucking off the Gov't. Lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency for others."

Supply and demand. Too many workers, not enough work here (in the U.S.) that pays well.

Tell that to a construction worker who just got sidelined, Bender. You'd better be smiling when you do. Or tell it to a dot-com or Silicon Valley employee 10 years ago, or a logger or aluminum industry employee who retrained when they lost their employ in those industries before retraining for the technical jobs that offshored or pay half as much as before they planned on working in the woods or making aluminum for a lifelong vocation.

These people's employment changed through forces beyond their control and in many cases the stockholders of their former employees profitted from their suffering.

You are writing as if we are living in post WWII America, when workers had better choices and career options, when one parent's labor provided a relatively rich family life.

Get away from your keyboard and look around, you smug selfish a**hole.

19. Comment by david evans - March 12, 2008 @ 01:50 PM
Everyone can't be a bridge designer, a software designer, or a neurologist. And not everyone can afford the education or has the intellect or the social status or skills to allow them to compete for well-paying careers. Yet, many just-average (those who Clinton called "the everyday-walk-around-folks) good people who work harder and longer than most of the suits, are seriously struggling economically, with no hope for a better future, as those who can afford to own stocks play the markets to their selfish advantage without a thought as to where this manna from heaven that is filling their portfolios is coming from.

It's coming from the the sweat of the disenfranchised worker.

Somewhat like profitting from slavery, don't you think?

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