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Prosecutor reviews man-with-gun case

He had also openly carried holstered weapon a day before being ticketed

By John Branton
Published: March 23, 2010, 12:00am

A man who was ticketed for wearing an openly displayed pistol outside an Albertsons shopping center on Friday was packing a total of 35 bullets — including those loaded in the holstered .45-caliber gun and in two ammunition clips.

But Kurk Robert Kirby, 26, made no menacing statements or gestures to anyone at 5000 E. Fourth Plain Blvd., police say. He simply stood around near stores for 10 to 15 minutes before someone called 911, according to a Vancouver Police Department report.

On Monday, Kevin McClure, supervising prosecutor with the City Attorney’s Office, said he was reviewing the police reports and had not yet decided what to do in the case.

The ticket alleges that Kirby committed the crime of unlawful carrying of a weapon, a gross misdemeanor that carries, if a person is convicted, a sentence of up to one year in jail and a $5,000 fine, McClure said.

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But Kirby’s attorney, Christopher Dumm of Vancouver, said the officer who issued the ticket made an error.

“We’re confident Mr. Kirby didn’t break any law,” he said. “Washington is an open-carry state.”

He added: “The police deserve my respect and they have it, but nobody is perfect and mistakes are made.”

As for Kirby himself, he declined to comment when contacted by The Columbian on Monday, on Dumm’s advice.

Meanwhile, the case has generated many comments on the Internet and is being monitored by groups and blogs in the open-carry movement.

Activists with the movement have been making visibly armed appearances such as Kirby’s in several states, to make the point that they believe the practice is legal and constitutionally protected.

Such comments can be read on Open Carry.org, which calls itself “a pro-gun Internet community focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life.”

Activists on the site discuss an upcoming open-carry event that would occur in Vancouver, possibly at Esther Short Park or Leverich Park.

One such comment, using the abbreviation OC for open carry, was posted Sunday on OpenCarry.org.

“Is there any chance for VPD to show up to make arrests at this or other events? I OC sometimes, by myself.”

Safety concerns

The Vancouver police report says officers were called to the strip mall shortly after 4 p.m. Friday, because a store owner had watched Kirby standing around wearing his gun. The man told police he called 911 because he was concerned for his customers, including several small children.

Three officers approached the supermarket and saw Kirby outside, wearing a skin-tight T-shirt that didn’t cover the large holstered gun.

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The report said the officers “contacted him” and one took the gun and extra ammo magazines from him.

The Springfield Armory XP pistol had a bullet in its chamber and several more in the magazine snapped into its handle. More rounds were in the two extra magazines, for a total of 35, the report said.

Kirby told officers that he was within his rights to carry the gun, the report said.

“I asked Kirby why he needed to ‘open carry,’” an officer reported. “He said he needed to in case he was attacked.

“I asked if he felt he was going to be attacked today and he said ‘no’ but maybe tomorrow he would be,” the officer said.

Kirby’s wife, Dawn Kirby, walked up and told officers she was wearing a concealed gun and had a permit for it, the report said.

Checking computers for the minivan the Kirbys arrived in, officers learned that the pair had staged an open carry the day before at Westfield Vancouver mall, the report said. Security officers had escorted them from the mall and reported they had been “belligerent.”

After receiving a copy of the ticket, Kirby “said he did not understand what the ‘big deal’ was because he had gone to about 10 different stores in the last several months with his gun in plain view and no one had ever complained,” the report said.

Kirby didn’t mention being told to leave the mall the day before, police said.

Officers took Kirby’s gun as evidence. But they returned his wife’s gun to her because it had been concealed lawfully and she had a permit.

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